Names of his father is not known; his mother was named Emma, and he likely had a brother Ilbert (progenitor of the Lacy family of Pontrefact) and a sister Helwise, who married William de Ebroys.

Died March 27, 1085 of a fall from a scaffolding while supervising the building of the priory of St. Guthlac. He was one of the Norman nobles granted lands after the Conquest, his located at Weobley, Herefordshire, an may have come to England in the company of Odo, Bishop of Bayeux and half-brother of William the Conqueror. He acquired other lands in Herefordshire along the Welsh border.

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Walter de Lacy

(died 1085)

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WALTER de Lacy, son of --- de Lacy & [his wife Emma ---] (-27 Mar 1085). Ellis suggests that Walter de Lacy was the brother of Ilbert de Lacy, highlighting that Walter held a "knight’s fee in Lassy and Campeaux" in Normandy from Odo Bishop of Bayeux and that "this fief was afterwards held in parage by the heirs of Walter and Ilbert". This is supported by the two documents, dated to [1133] and Sep 1146 both quoted below, which list fiefs of the bishop of Bayeux in the duchy of Normandy. Ellis shows the supposed brothers in his genealogical table as born from different mothers[26]. Presumably he bases this on Emma naming only her son Ilbert in the charter which is quoted above. However, there could be many explanations for the omission of Walter from the document and, assuming that the two were brothers, it seems probable that Emma was also the mother of Walter, who gave this name to his second daughter. Wightman suggests that Walter was the younger brother, because he arrived in England later than Ilbert “in the train of William FitzOsbern” and on the assumption that Ilbert was named by their mother because he was her older son and therefore held a position of greater importance in Normandy[27]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William granted “insulam Vectam et comitatum Herfordensem” to “Willelmo dapifero Normanniæ Osberni filio”, and sent him “cum Gualterio de Laceio” to fight “contra Britones” [Welsh], during which they first invaded “Brachaniaunos” and defeated “Guallorum reges Risen et Caducan ac Mariadoth”, dated to 1071[28]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Walterus de Lacy" donated “terras de Ledene" in 1080, with the consent of "rege Willelmo seniore", when "Waltero filio suo tunc parvulo" entered the monastery, "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][29]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the death "VI Kal Apr" 1085 of "Walterus fundator Sancti Petri Hereford", his burial "Gloucestriæ in capitulo", and the donation of "villam quinque hidarum Duntesborne tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104] made by "uxor eius Ermelina"[30].

m as her first husband, EMMELINE, daughter of --- (-after 27 Mar 1085). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the death "VI Kal Apr" 1085 of "Walterus fundator Sancti Petri Hereford", his burial "Gloucestriæ in capitulo", and the donation of "villam quinque hidarum Duntesborne tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104] made by "uxor eius Ermelina"[31]. Domesday Book records “Roger de Lacy” holding Siddington in Gloucestershire, adding that "his mother holds it as her dower land"[32]. A charter of Stephen King of England dated 1138 confirmed donations to Gloucester St Peter including the donation by "Emelinæ uxoris Walterii de Laceio" of “Duntesburna"[33]. [There are indications that Emmeline may have married secondly Arnoul de Hesdin. Both families made numerous donations to Gloucester St Peter, although it has not yet proved possible to link any of the names of land donated to both families, but most significantly the Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, in a list of holdings, records (in order) donations made by "Walterus de Lacy dedit Leden, Ernulfus de Hesding dedit Lyncoholt, Hermelina de Lacy dedit pro anima viri sui Duntesbourne…"[34]. This document confirms Emmeline’s two marriages, while the interposition of Arnoul’s name between Walter de Lacy and his wife Emmeline is best explained if he was her second husband. From a chronological point of view, the two marriages would fit. It should be emphasised that this suggestion is speculative. If it is correct, she could have been Emmeline, daughter of [Dreux de Baladon & his wife ---]. The reasoning behind this speculative parentage is discussed in the document WALES.]

Walter & his wife had [eight] children:

1. ROGER de Lacy ([1068/70]-after [1107/22]). Domesday Book records that “Roger de Lacy” held Enborne, Kintbury Hundred, and Childrey in Wantage Hundred, in Berkshire; land in Kiddington, Mongewell and Salford in Oxfordshire; several properties in Gloucestershire, numerous properties in Herefordshire; several properties in Shropshire[35]. He must therefore have reached the age of majority at his father’s death. Florence of Worcester names "Beornardus de Novo Mercatu, Rogerius de Laceio…Rawlfus de Mortuo Mari…cum hominibus comitis Rogeri de Scrobbesbyria" threatened Worcester with an army of Normans and Welsh, dated to [1088][36]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Rogerium de Laceio” was disinherited and fled England, dated to [1095/96][37]. Orderic Vitalis names “Rogerus de Laceio magister militum” of the army of Robert III Duke of Normandy sent against Robert de Bellême, dated to [1103][38]. The following document suggests that Roger was never pardoned by the king for his treason: Henry I King of England granted property of "Walterus de Lacy et Rogerus et Hugo filii eius" to St Guthlac’s, Hereford by charter dated to [1107/22][39]. It is assumed therefore that Roger remained in Normandy, where he held his branch’s part of the family fief at least until the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106. After King Henry I assumed control of the duchy of Normandy, it is probable that Roger’s share was transferred elsewhere, maybe to his brother Hugh.

2. WALTER de Lacy ([1072/73]-[8] Feb 1139). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Walterus de Lacy" donated “terras de Ledene" in 1080, with the consent of "rege Willelmo seniore", when "Waltero filio suo tunc parvulo" entered the monastery, "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][40]. Abbot of Gloucester. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the succession as abbot of Gloucester, after the death "III Id Jul" 1131, of "Walterus de Lacy capellanus" who his parents had consigned "circiter VII annos" to the monastic life at Gloucester which had been generously endowed "tam a patre quam a matre sua Emma"[41]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the the death of Abbot Walter after becoming blind and paralysed and his burial "VI Id Feb" 1139[42].

3. HUGH de Lacy (-before 1121). Orderic Vitalis records that, after “Rogerium de Laceio” was disinherited and fled England, his lands passed to “Hugoni fratri eius” who had faithfully served King William II, dated to [1095/96][43]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Hugo de Lacy" donated "ecclesiam Sancti Petri in Herford", built by "pater suus Walterus", in 1101[44]. "Hugo de Laceio et Adeliza uxor eius" donated Hereford St. Peter to Gloucester St. Peter by charter dated 1100[45]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Hugo de Lacy" donated "unum villanum et unam virgatam terræ in Moneswelle juxta Walyngeford", and in a later passage "ecclesiam de Quenyntone et ecclesiam de Wyke", both dated "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][46]. Henry I King of England granted property of "Walterus de Lacy et Rogerus et Hugo filii eius" to St Guthlac’s, Hereford by charter dated to [1107/22][47]. A manuscript describing the descendants of the founders of Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire records that “Hugo de Lacy primus fundator prioratus Lanthoniæ” came “in Wallia” during the reign of King William I but that, dying childless, "duabus sororibus suis…Ermelinæ quæ obit sine hærede et Emmæ sorori suæ" inherited his property[48]. Eyton conjectures that Hugh de Lacy died between 1108 and 1121[49]. m ADELINE, daughter of --- (-after 1100). "Hugo de Laceio et Adeliza uxor eius" donated Hereford St. Peter to Gloucester St. Peter by charter dated 1100[50].

4. [--- . Assuming that “nepos” in the source quoted below can be interpreted as nephew, one parent of Hugh’s “nepos” the Templar was Hugh’s sibling. The description of this person in the source follows a sentence recording Hugh’s brother Walter, but the two sentences are not linked. The problem of the precise parentage of Gilbert de Lacy, probably identified as the unnamed “nepos” shown below, is discussed in more detail later.] m ---. One child:

a) son . A history of Lanthony Abbey records that “Hugo de Laci” had “nepos...miles” who, after a long military career, eventually became a Templar (“sub habitu Templariorum...”)[51]. same person as...? GILBERT de Lacy (-[May 1160/1163]). His co-identity with the unnamed “nepos” of Hugh de Lacy is indicated by the charter dated May 1160, which records a treaty between Louis VII King of France and King Henry II, subscribed by "…Willelmo Pavet magistro Templi et fratribus...Gilberto de Laceio…"[52]. The precise date when Gilbert joined the Knights Templar has not been ascertained. Gilbert inherited the share of the family’s Norman fiefs held by Walter de Lacy’s branch of the family, as shown by a list of fiefs of Bayeux church, dated to [1133], which records “feodum de Lacey in Campellis” held by “duorum militum...Guilleberti et Henrici”[53]. The problem of Gilbert’s precise parentage is discussed in more detail below. - see below.

5. [--- . The inheritance of part of the Lacy estates by Sibylla’s descendants indicates that one of her parents was a child of Walter de Lacy. Wightman says that Sibylla was the daughter of Hugh de Lacy, without specifying a primary source which confirms his statement, although he concedes that “it has frequently been assumed that [Hugh] died childless”[54]. The difficulty is that Sibylla’s descendants inherited only part of the Lacy estates, as indicated by the charter dated to [Dec 1137/May 1138] under which King Stephen only referred to Sibylla’s dowry as quoted below, whereas Sibylla would presumably have been sole heiress if Hugh had been her father. Rivalry between Sibylla’s heirs and Gilbert de Lacy (see above) concerning the succession to the Lacy estates in England is indicated by an agreement dated to [1147/49] between Roger Earl of Hereford (husband of Sibylla’s older daughter) and William Earl of Gloucester to combine forces against Gilbert de Lacy[55]. This suggests that their respective claims to the estates were of equal weight, and that the two were cousins not brother and sister. The Complete Peerage discusses the theory that this person was the wife of Geoffrey [I] Talbot (named Agnes in other sources) (see the document ENGLAND EARLS CREATED 1067-1122)[56]. The argument centres around Gauthier de Mayenne, third husband of Cecily daughter of this person’s daughter Sibylla de Lacy, recording that in 1166 he held land previously held by Geoffrey [II] Talbot: "Walterus de Meduana" confirmed to King Henry II that he held "in capite...xx milites" in Kent which “Galfridus Tallebot” had held on the death of King Henry I, dated 1166[57]. Some family relationship between Geoffrey [II] Talbot and the Lacy family is shown by the Gesta Stephani Regis which records that "Galfridus…Taleboth cognatus…Gislebertus de Laceio" was captured by King Stephen’s forces, dated to [1139/40][58]. Keats-Rohan says that the wife of Geoffrey [I] Talbot “used erroneously to be identified as a de Lacy” but that in fact she was “possibly a daughter of Helto” (dapifer, recorded in Domesday Book as holding Swanscombe, Kent from Odo Bishop of Bayeux), and in a later sentence suggests that the connection between the Talbot and Lucy families would be explained if “Adeline or Adelisa, wife of Hugh de Lacy (d.a.1115), was the daughter of Geoffrey and Agnes”[59]. From a chronological point of view, it does not appear ideal for Sibylla de Lacy (married firstly “before [1125]”%29 to have been the daughter of Geoffroy [I] Talbot (born “[1050/65]?”). m ---.] One child:

a) SIBYLLA de Lacy (after [1140]). The date of her first marriage is estimated from the dating of her older daughter’s first marriage to “before [Dec 1137/May 1138]”. “Sibilla de Lacy” notified her bailiffs and foresters that she had donated “land of Leghe near the church of St Michael” to “my uncle Walter abbot of Gloucester”, for the souls of “myself and my husband Payne Fitz-john”, by charter dated to [1130/39][60]. "Rogo filio Milonis Gloec et Cecilie uxori sue filie Pag fil Johis" the lands of her father, including land which "Pag dedit Sibille uxoris sue in dote", by charter dated to [Dec 1137/May 1138][61]. Roger Bishop of Salisbury instructed "Sibille q fuit uxor Pag fil Johis" to restore property which her husband had granted to "Rogo fil Milon Gloec cum Cecilia filia tua p-mogenita" by charter dated 1138[62]. Her second marriage is confirmed by two charters of St. Guthlac’s priory, Hereford: in the first, “Sybil de Laceo” donated land at “Parva Frome” in Herefordshire, while in the second Sibylla “domina de Lodel” donated further land in the same place “ex proprio jure hereditare mee” with the consent of “domini mei Gozonis de Dinan”[63]. It is assumed that Sibylla survived for at least two years after her second marriage as her second husband is recorded as having had two children. No source has been identified which confirms that Sibylla was their mother, although the naming of the younger child after her is indicative. m firstly (before [1125]%29 PAYN FitzJohn of Ewyas, Herefordshire, son of JOHN & his wife --- (before 1100-killed 10 Jul 1137, bur Gloucester Abbey). m secondly (after 1138) JOSCELIN de Dinan, son of GEOFFROY [I] de Dinan & his wife Radegonde [Oriel] ---.

6. daughter (-after 1086). Nun at Winchester. Domesday Book records that the abbess of Winchester held Coleshill, Berkshire and that “Walter de Lacy” donated it to the church “with his daughter”[64].

7. [EMMELINE de Lacy . A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “Hugo de Lacy primus” had “duabus sororibus…Ermelinæ…et Emmæ” who were his heiresses, adding that Emmeline died childless[65]. Wightman highlights that this is a 16th century document of dubious validity and that no earlier charter evidence corroborates the existence of these two daughters[66].]

8. [EMMA de Lacy . A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “Hugo de Lacy primus” had “duabus sororibus…Ermelinæ…et Emmæ” who were his heiresses, adding that Emma married “---“[67]. Wightman highlights that this is a 16th century document of dubious validity and that no earlier charter evidence corroborates the existence of these two daughters[68]. m ---. The name of Emma’s husband is not known]

SOURCES

[26] Ellis ‘Landholders of Gloucestershire’, p. 136.

[27] Wightman, W. E. (1966) The Lacy Family in England and Normandy (Oxford), pp. 56-7.

[28] Le Prévost, A. (1845) Orderici Vitalis Historiæ Ecclesiasticæ (Paris) ("Orderic Vitalis (Prévost)"), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 217.

[29] Hart, W. H. (ed.) (1863) Historia et Cartularium Monasterii Sancti Petri Gloucestriæ (London) ("Gloucester St Peter"), Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 92.

[30] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 73.

[31] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 73.

[32] Domesday Translation, Gloucestershire, XXXIX, p. 463.

[33] Dugdale Monasticon I, Gloucester Monastery, XIV, p. 551.

[34] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 122.

[35] Domesday Translation, Berkshire, XLV, p. 155, Oxfordshire, LIX, pp. 443-4, Gloucestershire, XXXIX, pp. 462-3, Herefordshire, X, pp. 507-10, Shropshire, VII, pp. 714-5.

[36] Thorpe, B. (ed.) (1849) Florentii Wigorniensis Monachi Chronicon, Tomus II (London) (“Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon”), p. 24.

[37] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, p. 411.

[38] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber XI, XII, pp. 180, 401.

[39] Johnson, C. & Cronne, H. A. (ed.) (1956) Regesta Regem Anglo-Normannorum (Oxford), Vol. II, Appendix, CLVIII, p. 347.

[40] Gloucester St Peter, Vol. I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 92.

[41] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 15.

[42] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 17.

[43] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, p. 411.

[44] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, p. 84.

[45] Gloucester St Peter, Vol. III, DCCCCXCV, p. 256.

[46] Gloucester St Peter, Vol, I, Historia monasterii sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, pp. 100 and 109.

[47] Regesta Regem Anglo-Normannorum (1956), Vol. II, Appendix, CLVIII, p. 347.

[48] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, III, p. 135.

[49] Eyton, R. W. (1857) Antiquities of Shropshire (London), Vol. V, p. 239.

[50] Gloucester St Peter, Vol. III, DCCCCXCV, p. 256.

[51] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, I, Historia Fundationis, p. 130.

[52] Berger, E. (ed.) (1916) Recueil des actes de Henri II roi d’Angleterre et duc de Normandie (Paris) ("Actes Henri II"), Tome I, CXLI, p. 251.

[53] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Scripta de Feodis ad regem spectantibus, Feoda ecclesiæ Baiocensis, 443, pp. 700-1.

[54] Wightman (1966), p. 175.

[55] Wightman (1966), p. 186, citing Davis, R. H. C. ‘Treaty between William Earl of Gloucester and Roger Earl of Hereford’, Barnes, P. M. & Slade, C. F. (eds.) (1960) A Medieval Miscellany Presented to Doris Mary Stenton (Pipe Roll Society), pp. 139-46 [not yet consulted].

[56] CP IX 424, note at bottom of page, continued to 425-6.

[57] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, p. 195.

[58] Sewell, R. C. (ed.) (1846) Gesta Stephani, Regis Anglorum et Ducis Normannorum (London) ("Gesta Stephani Regis") I, p. 38.

[59] Keats-Rohan, K. ‘Additions and Corrections to Sanders’s Baronies’, Prosopon Newsletter (2000), p. 4.

[60] Bannister, A. T. (1902) The History of Ewias Harold (Hereford), 41, p. 54.

[61] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 21, p. 35.

[62] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 22, p. 38.

[63] Coplestone-Crow, B. ‘Payn FitzJohn and Ludlow Castle’, Shropshire History and Archaeology Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological and Historical Society, LXX (1995), pp. 181, 183, footnote 98, which cites the charters “fo. 52 no. 198” and “fo. 51v no 192” without a citation reference to the cartulary.

[64] Domesday Translation, Berkshire, XIV, p. 146.

[65] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.

[66] Wightman (1966), p. 169, citing B.M. Cotton MS. Cleopatra C III, fo. 307b.

[67] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.

[68] Wightman (1966), p. 169, citing B.M. Cotton MS. Cleopatra C III, fo. 307b.

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LACY

Loyd indicates that this family originated in Lassy in the present-day French département of Calvados, arrondissement Vire, canton Condé-sur-Noireau.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_de_Lacy_(died_1085) retrieved 15 March 2015

Walter de Lacy (died 27 March 1085) was a Norman nobleman who came to England after the Norman Conquest of England in 1066. He received lands in Herefordshire and Shropshire, and served King William I of England by leading military forces during 1075. He died in 1085 and one son inherited his lands. Another son became an abbot.

Early life

Walter was originally from Lassy, in Normandy. He had a brother, Ilbert de Lacy.[1] Ilbert was the ancestor of the de Lacy family of Pontefract. Both Walter and Ilbert jointly held the Norman lands that were held of the Bishop of Bayeux.[2]

Career in England

Walter was given the lordship of Weobley in Herefordshire after the Conquest.[1] He is already attested in the Welsh Marches by 1069,[3] when he is recorded stopping a Welsh attack and then raiding into Wales in retribution.[4] Walter and Ilbert may have come to England in the household of Odo of Bayeux, the Bishop of Bayeux and half-brother of King William the Conqueror.[5] Although some historians, such as W. E. Wightman, have argued that Walter was a follower of William fitzOsbern,[6] others, including C. P. Lewis and K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, have argued that Walter was an independent agent in England.[1][2] By the time of Walter's death, he held a block of lands in Herefordshire along the border with Wales. Another group of lands was centered on Ludlow in Shropshire. These two groupings of lands allowed Walter to help defend the border of England against Welsh raids. Walter also had other lands in Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Worcestershire, and Oxfordshire. Walter kept a large number of his manors in demesne, managing them directly rather than giving them as fiefs to his knightly followers.[7] Some of these lands in Hereford, including Holme Lacy, were held of the Bishop of Hereford through feudal tenure.[8] In total, Domesday Book records Walter's lands as being worth £423 in income per year and as comprising 163 manors in 7 different counties.[9] He was one of 21 individuals with land valued at more than £400 at the time of the survey.[10]

In 1075, Walter was one of the leaders of the force that prevented Roger de Breteuil from joining up with the other rebels during the Revolt of the Earls. Walter had joined forces with Wulfstan the Bishop of Worcester, Æthelwig the Abbot of Evesham Abbey, and Urse d'Abetot the Sheriff of Worcester.[11]

Family and death

Walter married Emma or Emmelina and they had three sons – Roger, Hugh and Walter. Roger was the heir to Weobley and Walter became Abbot of Gloucester Abbey.[1] Occasionally the elder Walter is claimed to have married twice – once to Emma and once to an Ermeline, but this is probably a confusion of the variations of Emma's name. Walter and Emma also had a daughter who became a nun at St Mary's Abbey, Winchester. A niece was married to Ansfrid de Cormeilles.[6] Considerable confusion exists about Sybil, the wife of Pain fitzJohn. C. P. Lewis names her as the daughter of Walter,[2] but W. E. Wightman calls her the daughter of Hugh, Walter's son.[12] Yet another pedigree has her as the daughter of Agnes, the daughter of Walter. In this rendition, favoured by Bruce Coplestone-Crow, Agnes was married to Geoffrey Talbot.[13]

The elder Walter died on 27 March 1085,[2] falling off some scaffolding at Saint Guthlac's Priory when he was inspecting the progress of the building at that monastery.[14] He was buried in the chapter house at Gloucester Abbey.[2] He was a benefactor to Gloucester Abbey,[15] as well as Saint Guthlac's.[2]

Citations

1. Keats-Rohan Domesday People p. 452
2. Lewis "Lacy, Walter de" Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
3. Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 44
4. Wightman Lacy Family p. 167
5. Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 93
6. Wrightman Lacy Family pp. 168–170
7. Green Aristocracy of Norman England pp. 152–153
8. Garnett Conquered England p. 94
9. Coplestone-Crow "From Foundation to the Anarchy" Ludlow Castle p. 21
10. Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 36
11. Williams English and the Norman Conquest p. 60 footnote 61
12. Wightman Lacy Family p. 175
13. Coplestone-Crow "From Foundation to the Anarchy" Ludlow Castle p. 22
14. Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 427
15. Green Aristocracy of Norman England p. 398

References

• Coplestone-Crow, Bruce (2000). "From Foundation to Anarchy". In Shoesmith, Ron and Johnson, Andy. Ludlow Castle: Its History & Buildings. Little Logaston, UK: Logaston Press. pp. 21–34; 215–217; 233–235. ISBN 1-873827-51-2.
• Garnett, George (2007). Conquered England: Kingship, Succession, and Tenure, 1066–1166. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-820793-1.
• Green, Judith A. (1997). The Aristocracy of Norman England. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-52465-2.
• Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. (1999). Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066–1166: Domesday Book. Ipswich, UK: Boydell Press. ISBN 0-85115-722-X.
• Lewis, C. P. (2004). "Lacy, Walter de (d. 1085)" ((subscription or UK public library membership required)). Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Online edition of May 2011 ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/15863. Retrieved 7 March 2012.
• Williams, Ann (2000). The English and the Norman Conquest. Ipswich, UK: Boydell Press. ISBN 0-85115-708-4.
• Wightman, W. E. (1966). The Lacy Family in England and Normandy 1066–1194. Oxford, UK: Clarendon Press. OCLC 798626.

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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm retrieved 15 March 2015

WALTER de Lacy, son of --- de Lacy & [his wife Emma ---] (-27 Mar 1085). Ellis suggests that Walter de Lacy was the brother of Ilbert de Lacy, highlighting that Walter held a "knight’s fee in Lassy and Campeaux" in Normandy from Odo Bishop of Bayeux and that "this fief was afterwards held in parage by the heirs of Walter and Ilbert". He shows the supposed brothers in his genealogical table as born from different mothers[25]. Presumably he bases this on Emma naming only her son Ilbert in the charter which is quoted above. However, there could be many explanations for the omission of Walter from the document and, assuming that the two were brothers, it seems probable that Emma was also the mother of Walter, who gave this name to his second daughter. Orderic Vitalis records that King William granted “insulam Vectam et comitatum Herfordensem” to “Willelmo dapifero Normanniæ Osberni filio”, and sent him “cum Gualterio de Laceio” to fight “contra Britones” [Welsh], during which they first invaded “Brachaniaunos” and defeated “Guallorum reges Risen et Caducan ac Mariadoth”, dated to 1071[26]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Walterus de Lacy" donated “terras de Ledene" in 1080, with the consent of "rege Willelmo seniore", when "Waltero filio suo tunc parvulo" entered the monastery, "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][27]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the death "VI Kal Apr" 1085 of "Walterus fundator Sancti Petri Hereford", his burial "Gloucestriæ in capitulo", and the donation of "villam quinque hidarum Duntesborne tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104] made by "uxor eius Ermelina"[28].

m [as her first husband,] EMMELINE, daughter of --- (-after 27 Mar 1085). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the death "VI Kal Apr" 1085 of "Walterus fundator Sancti Petri Hereford", his burial "Gloucestriæ in capitulo", and the donation of "villam quinque hidarum Duntesborne tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104] made by "uxor eius Ermelina"[29]. Domesday Book records “Roger de Lacy” holding Siddington in Gloucestershire, adding that "his mother holds it as her dower land"[30]. A charter of Stephen King of England dated 1138 confirmed donations to Gloucester St Peter including the donation by "Emelinæ uxoris Walterii de Laceio" of “Duntesburna"[31]. [There are indications that Emmeline may have married secondly Arnoul de Hesdin. Both families made numerous donations to Gloucester St Peter, although it has not yet proved possible to link any of the names of land donated to both families, but most significantly the Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ, in a list of holdings, records (in order) donations made by "Walterus de Lacy dedit Leden, Ernulfus de Hesding dedit Lyncoholt, Hermelina de Lacy dedit pro anima viri sui Duntesbourne…"[32]. The interposition of Arnoul’s name between Walter de Lacy and his wife Emmeline is best explained if he was Emmeline’s second husband. From a chronological point of view, the two marriages would fit. It should be emphasised that this suggestion is speculative. If it is correct, she could have been Emmeline, daughter of [Dreux de Baladon & his wife ---]. The reasoning behind this speculative parentage is discussed in the document WALES.]

Walter & his wife had [six] children:

1. ROGER de Lacy (-after [1107/22]). Domesday Book records that “Roger de Lacy” held Enborne, Kintbury Hundred, and Childrey in Wantage Hundred, in Berkshire; land in Kiddington, Mongewell and Salford in Oxfordshire; several properties in Gloucestershire, numerous properties in Herefordshire; several properties in Shropshire[33]. Henry I King of England granted property of "Walterus de Lacy et Rogerus et Hugo filii eius" to St Guthlac’s, Hereford by charter dated to [1107/22][34]. Lord of the manor of Stanton Lacy, Shropshire.

2. WALTER de Lacy ([1072/73]-[8] Feb 1139). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Walterus de Lacy" donated “terras de Ledene" in 1080, with the consent of "rege Willelmo seniore", when "Waltero filio suo tunc parvulo" entered the monastery, "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][35]. Abbot of Gloucester. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the succession as abbot of Gloucester, after the death "III Id Jul" 1131, of "Walterus de Lacy capellanus" who his parents had consigned "circiter VII annos" to the monastic life at Gloucester which had been generously endowed "tam a patre quam a matre sua Emma"[36]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records the the death of Abbot Walter after becoming blind and paralysed and his burial "VI Id Feb" 1139[37].

3. HUGH de Lacy (-before 1121). The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Hugo de Lacy" donated "ecclesiam Sancti Petri in Herford", built by "pater suus Walterus", in 1101[38]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Hugo de Lacy" donated "unum villanum et unam virgatam terræ in Moneswelle juxta Walyngeford", and in a later passage "ecclesiam de Quenyntone et ecclesiam de Wyke", both dated "tempore Serlonis abbatis" [abbot from 1072 to 1104][39]. Henry I King of England granted property of "Walterus de Lacy et Rogerus et Hugo filii eius" to St Guthlac’s, Hereford by charter dated to [1107/22][40]. A manuscript describing the descendants of the founders of Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire records that “Hugo de Lacy primus fundator prioratus Lanthoniæ” came “in Wallia” during the reign of King William I but that, dying childless, "duabus sororibus suis…Ermelinæ quæ obit sine hærede et Emmæ sorori suæ" inherited his property[41]. Eyton conjectures that Hugh de Lacy died between 1108 and 1121[42]. Keats-Rohan says that Agnes (wife of Geoffrey Talbot, see below) “used erroneously to be identified as a de Lacy” and that she was “possibly a daughter of Helto” (dapifer, recorded in Domesday Book as holding Swanscombe, Kent from Odo Bishop of Bayeux) but does not explain the reasoning, although in a later sentence she suggests that the connection between the Talbot and Lucy families would be explained if “Adeline or Adelisa, wife of Hugh de Lacy (d.a.1115), was the daughter of Geoffrey and Agnes”[43]. Presumably the Hugh de Lacy in question (“d.a.1115”) was this supposed brother of Agnes’s, but the source which confirms his marriage has not yet been identified.

4. EMMELINE de Lacy . A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “Hugo de Lacy primus” had “duabus sororibus…Ermelinæ…et Emmæ” who were his heiresses, adding that Emmeline died childless[44].

5. EMMA de Lacy . A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “Hugo de Lacy primus” had “duabus sororibus…Ermelinæ…et Emmæ” who were his heiresses, adding that Emma married “---“[45]. m ---. The name of Emma’s husband is not known. Emma & her husband had one child:

a) [NOTE from Curator Pam Wilson: This is in disagreement with other sources, which position Gilbert as son of Roger instead. This latter model is what is currently reflected on the Geni tree] GILBERT de Lacy (-[1158/63]). A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Gilbertus de Lacy” as son of Emma and her unnamed husband[46]. The Gesta Stephani Regis records that "Galfridus…Taleboth cognatus…Gislebertus de Laceio" was captured by King Stephen’s forces, dated to [1139/40][47]. "Gilbertus de Laci et Robertus filius eius" confirmed the donation of a tenement in Droitwich to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory by charter dated to [1150][48]. A manuscript which records the foundation of Lanthony Abbey refers to “Hugo de Laci…nepos” who, after many contests, worked for the Christian cause "sub habitu Templariorum"[49]. Although not named, the nepos in question was presumably Gilbert[50]. A listing of Templar properties dated 1185 includes land “apud Guttingres…Holeford” donated by "Gileberti de Laci"[51]. Eyton conjectures that Gilbert de Lacy died, or at least retired from the world, between 1158 and 1163[52]. m ---. The name of Gilbert’s wife is not known. Gilbert & his wife had three children:

i) ROBERT de Lacy (-after [1150]). "Gilbertus de Laci et Robertus filius eius" confirmed the donation of a tenement in Droitwich to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory by charter dated to [1150][53]. Robert must have predeceased his father, assuming that he was the oldest son.
ii) HUGH de Lacy (-killed 25 Jul 1185). A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Hugo…et Walterus frater eius” as the sons of “Gilbertus de Lacy”, adding that Hugh died childless[54]. This is contradicted by the Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire which records that "Gilbertus de Lacy" had a son "Hugonem" who had "filium Walterum"[55]. "…Hugoni de Lacy…" subscribed the charter dated [1172/78] under which Henry II King of England confirmed the freedoms of the city of Rouen[56]. Lord of Meath in Ireland. - LORDS of MEATH.
iii) [WALTER de Lacy . A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Hugo…et Walterus frater eius” as the sons of “Gilbertus de Lacy”[57]. This document identifies Walter as the father of Gilbert de Lacy (see below) and therefore by implication as Lord of Meath. However, this appears unlikely from a chronological point of view, and also ignores the existence of Hugh de Lacy Lord of Meath. This supposed parentage is disproved by the undated charter under which “Walterus de Lacy filius Hugonis de Lacy” confirmed his father’s donation to Lanthony Abbey[58].]

6. [AGNES (-after 1129). “Gausfridus Talebotus et uxor eius Agnes” donated part “de terra Fenge” to Colchester St. John by undated charter, witnessed by “...Sibilla domini filia” [who has not yet been identified][59]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Agnes uxor Gaufr Talebot" in Kent in respect of "dote et maritag suo"[60]. Her possible parentage is indicated by the charter dated to [1130/39] under which [her presumed daughter] “Sibilla de Lacy” notified her bailiffs and foresters that she had donated “land of Leghe near the church of St Michael” to “my uncle Walter abbot of Gloucester”, for the souls of “myself and my husband Payne Fitz-john”, by charter dated to [1130/39][61], on the assumption that “uncle” can be interpreted in the document in its strict sense which would mean that Walter de Lacy Abbot of Gloucester was the brother of Agnes. Keats-Rohan says that Agnes “used erroneously to be identified as a de Lacy” and that she was “possibly a daughter of Helto” (dapifer, recorded in Domesday Book as holding Swanscombe, Kent from Odo Bishop of Bayeux) but does not explain the reasoning, although in a later sentence she suggests that the connection between the Talbot and Lucy families would be explained if “Adeline or Adelisa, wife of Hugh de Lacy (d.a.1115), was the daughter of Geoffrey and Agnes”[62]. Presumably the Hugh de Lacy in question (“d.a.1115”) was this Agnes’s supposed brother Hugh who is shown above, but the source which confirms his marriage has not yet been identified. m GEOFFREY Talbot, son of --- (-before 1129).]

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• [26] Le Prévost, A. (1845) Orderici Vitalis Historiæ Ecclesiasticæ (Paris) ("Orderic Vitalis (Prévost)"), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 217.
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Walter De Lacy Knight 1 25 SmartMatches

Birth: 1043 in , Loci, Normandie, France 2 3

Death: Apr 1084 2 3

Sex: M

Father: Hugue De Laci Knight b. About 1018 in , Loci, Normandie, France

Mother: Emma De Bois Le Evegue b. About 1028 in (, , , France)

Unknown: 4 3

Unknown: 14 Oct 1066 , Hastings, Sussex, England 5 3

LDS Baptism: 19 Apr 1935

LDS Endowment: 23 May 1935

LDS Sealing Child: 25 Jan 1950

Changed: 2 Jan 2003 00:00

  Spouses & Children    

Emmaline De Normandie (Wife) b. About 1047 in (, Loci, Normandie, France)
1 6 2 3

Marriage: Abt 1070 in (, Loci, Normandie, France

 Emma ( Emmaline ) de Lacy) (Wife) b. ABT 1046 

Children:

Roger de Lacy 2nd Baron Lacy

Hugh de Lacy 3nd Baron Lacy

Walter de Lacy

Emma ( Emmaline ) de Lacy b. ABT 1082 in of Lacy, Herefordshire, Eng.

According to the wikipedia article in this profile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_de_Lacy_(died_1085) retrieved 15 March 2015, which is no longer an active link,
"Walter was originally from Lassy, in Normandy."

According to another source in this profile "Loyd indicates that this family originated in Lassy in the present-day French département of Calvados, arrondissement Vire, canton Condé-sur-Noireau."

In the 11th century Lassy would have been part of the Duchy of Normandy.