Not the son of Robert White, of Somerset disconnected Nov 2015

Tagged by familytreedna.com with Y-DNA haplotype R1b1a2 (R-M269). This is an extremely common haplotype - but there are White lines with I1 haplotype that cannot be related in the direct male line.

Rich merchant, and rather extremely Catholic. The name of his first wife (and mother of his son Thomas) is unknown. After her death he married Christian (possibly Pierce) [Percy], who survived him.

Biography

Thomas White was born about 1483 in Dorset, and died in Poole, Dorset on 25th December, 1556. [9] Probate for his will was granted 6 July 1557.

Extracted from https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-5953 on 27 March 2025 and then edited

Marriages

Thomas had two, known wives, but seems to have been been married three times

1. Unknown
2. Cecily Webbe, the daughter of William Webbe MP and Mayor of Salisbury.
3. Chrystian her surname at the time of her marriage was Percye. Some unsourced trees say Chrystian Pierce. See Thomas' Will. [1] She was the widow of John Percy of Shaftesbury.

Children

Child of unknown mother

1. Elenor b 20 May, 1503 m John Mann in 1525 [2] [3]

Children with Cecily Webb

1. Thomas b in abt 1517.
2. Edyth m James Mesurer
3. Johane m Thomas Santebarbe [4][5]

Occupation

Thomas White was a wealthy merchant from Poole in Dorset. He dealt in cloth primarily in woollen cloth and lead.

He was mayor of the borough of Poole in 1531, 1538 and 1545 [6] (NB. there is also a William White Mayor in 1459, A Thomas White Mayor in 1504, 1510, 1511 and 1517; his father? The 1545 Mayor is referred to as senior. His son Thomas is thought to be the Thomas White junior in 1553).

Opposition to Thomas Hancock, Protestant curate of Poole

'Old Thomas Whyghtt, a great rich merchant and a ringleader of the papists rose out of his seat and went out of the church saying "come from him, good people; he came from the devil and teacheth unto you devilish doctrine" [7]

Thomas White died on 25th December, 1556. [9] Probate for his will was granted 6 July 1557.

Research notes

• evidence for daughter Elenor as from a probable earlier marriage than that of White and Cecily Webbe
• Elenor is not mentioned in the will of William Webbe (1523) as a daughter of his daughter Cecilie.
• In his will Thomas White, mentions a daughter(she appears to have died) who had been the wife of John Mann. He mentions their children, Thomas Mann was a default heir to Thomas White
• The household memoranda of John Mann* discussed below includes the following:
• I John Man was marryed ye vj day of awgust an 25(1525), ye xvij yere of ye Reyn of Kyng harry, ye viij; unto Elenor Whytt ye dawter of thomas whytt; she bey'g of ye adge of xxij years, ye xx may last past [13]
• John Mann's will mentions his children which are as stated in Thomas White's will
• Her age at marriage suggests a birthdate of 20 May 1503, making her considerably older than her siblings,(Thomas White, the heir, was born in about 1517)

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References

1. WEBBE, alias KELLOWE, William (by 1466-1523), of Salisbury, Wilts. b. by 1466. m. (1) Joan, wid. of one Stone ?of Salisbury, 1s. William Webbe II 1da., (2) Edith, wid. of Robert Long (d.1501) of Steeple Ashton and of one Morgan; (3) Joan.2 Webbe made his will on 13 July 1523, describing himself as ‘William Kellowe or William Webbe of the city of New Sarum, mercer and merchant’ and asking to be buried in the church of St. Thomas, where his three wives already lay. He made bequests to his daughter Cecily, the wife of Thomas White of Poole, and her three children, as well as to the children of his second wife by her two earlier marriages.
2. 'The Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Magazine' (vol XLIX, no. 175, December 1941, 'Pedigree showing Coke, Stone and Webbe families, with intermarriages', before p479). < link >
   1. National Archives Will of Thomas Whitte or White, Merchant of Poole PROB 11/39/278 , 09 July 1557 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D954766 viewable on Ancestry.co.uk "Item I give and bequeathe to the three sonnes and to the two daughters of John Man whereby be begat upon my daughter as following that is to say, To Thomas Man my godson twenty poundes, To William Man [ abbreviaton ] and to John Man [abbreviation ] And to any of the said two daughters that is to say Agnes and Edith [ ](further in the will Thomas Man was named as first default heir to Thomas White (the younger))"
3. WikiTree contributors, "Thomas White (abt.1483-1556)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-5953 : accessed 27 March 2025) cites
   1. see http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/252620/can-any-16th-century-handwriting...
   2. Pedigree included in a folder at the Poole local heritage centre includes daughter, Eleanor. This tree correctly records Eleanor as being the wife of John Mann, Edyth as the wife of James Mesurer and Johane as the wife of Thomas St Barbe
   3. Needles, Samuel Hambleton Record of the Man, Needles (Nedels) and Hambleton families...1495-1876Digital images of original published: Philadelphia, Deacon pr. 1876. . 124+8 p. plates. https://archive.org/stream/recordofmanneedl00need#page/n119/mode/2up
   4. Will of William Kellowe or William Webbe or Web, mercer or merchant of Salisbury, Wiltshire, probate date 14 August 1523, PROB 11/21/199 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D975568 < transcript freespace page >
   5. National Archives Kew, PROB 11/39/278 Description: Will of Thomas White or Whitte, Merchant of Poole, Dorset Date: 09 July 1557
   6. List of Mayors of Poole http://www.poolehistory.org.uk/sites/default/files/ChronologicalMay...
   7. AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL NARRATIVE OF THOMAS HANCOCK, MINISTER OF POOLE. [MS. Harl. 425, fol. 124.] in John Gough Nichols " Narrative of the days of the reformation, chiefly from the manuscripts of John Foxe the martyrologist" http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/john-gough-nichols/narrative-... :Original Text "' olde Thomas Whyghtt, a greate rvch marchantt, and a ringleader of the papistes, rose owtt off hys seate, and wentt owt: of the church, saying Come from hym, good people; he came from the diuell, and teacheth wnto yow divlish doctrine
   8. AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF THOMAS HANCOCK op cit
   9. Somerset and Dorset Notes and Queries VOLUME XVI "Thomas White, of Fittleford, died previously on 2Sth December, 4 Philip and Mary, seized of the manor of Fettleford held by socage and seven shillings rent of the manor https://archive.org/stream/proceedingsdorse16dors#page/66/mode/2up/...
   10. M K DALE in The History of Parliament http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/wh...
   11. Will of Thomas Whitte or White, Merchant of Poole National Archives, Kew. PROB 11/39/278 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D954766 transcription by Helen Ford Will of Thomas White or Whitte, Merchant of Poole, Dorset 1557
   12. List of Mayors of Poole http://www.poolehistory.org.uk/node/326886
   13. Needles, Samuel HambletonRecord of the Man, Needles (Nedels) and Hambleton families...1495-1876