Sir John de Grey, Chief Justice of Chester, Sheriff of Herefordshire

Medilands (updated 9 Mar 2022) Grey (of Codnor, Wilton, Ruthin)

A. 1. HENRY de Grey of Grays Thurrock, Essex (-1219). m as her first husband, ISOLDA, daughter of --- (-after 1 Jul 1225).
There are contrary indications concerning the parentage of Isolda. “Jord Foliot Isold de Gray et Rad Paynel” swore homage for the lands of “Robti Bardulf avunculi sui”, and accepted security from “Robto Lupo loco Matild Bardulf matris sue que est una herederum predicti Roberti”, dated 1 Jul 1225[496]. This source suggests that Isolda de Grey was the daughter of the second sister of Robert Bardulf, and co-heir of her uncle.
On the other hand, Thomas Stapleton, in his "Observations on the Great Rolls of the Exchequer of Normandy", records that Henry de Grey married "Ysolda...daughter of Hugh Bardolf, sister and one of the co-heirs of Robert Bardolf", that in 1235 she was “remarried to...Reginald de Meandre”, and that in 1246 “Richard de Gray son and heir of Isolda de Gray” swore homage to King Henry III, although he does not cite the source reference[497].
The birth date of Hugh [I] Bardolf (father of Robert Bardolf) is estimated to before 1135 (see above). Hugh’s children would presumably therefore have been born in [1160/80]. If that date range is correct, the date of Isolda’s second marriage, and also the chronology of the Grey family, suggest that Isolda was more probably Hugh’s granddaughter than his daughter.
Another possibility is that the wife of Henry de Grey was Robert’s sister and that “Isold de Gray” who is named in the 1 Jul 1225 source was the couple’s daughter. However, in that case, it is unclear why Isolda’s son Richard would not have been named as the Grey representative of the heirs who are named in 1 Jul 1225.
On balance, it appears more likely that Isolda was Robert Bardolf’s niece, although if that is correct there is no indication of her father’s family. She married secondly (before 1235) Reginald de Meaudre.
Henry & his wife had children:

a) RICHARD de Grey of Codnor (-after 1246). Thomas Stapleton, in his "Observations on the Great Rolls of the Exchequer of Normandy", records that in 1246 “Richard de Gray son and heir of Isolda de Gray” swore homage to King Henry III, but he does not cite the source reference[498]. This reference, if correct, suggests that Richard was his parents’ oldest son. m LUCY de Humez, daughter of JOHN de Humez & his wife ---. Richard & his wife had children:

i) JOHN de Grey (-before 5 Jan 1272). - Lords Grey (of Codnor).

b) JOHN de Grey of Shirland, Derbyshire (-before 18 Mar 1266). m firstly EMMA de Glanville, daughter of GEOFFREY de Glanville & his wife ---. m secondly (after 2 Nov 1230) as her second husband, EMMA de Cauz, widow of JOHN de Segrave, daughter of ROGER de Cauz & his wife ---. Bracton records a claim, dated 1229, which involved "Johannem de Segraue et Emmam uxorem eius filiam et heredem…Rogeri de Cauz"[499]. King Henry III granted "maritagium Emme de Cauz que fuit uxor Johannis de Sedgrave, filii ipsius Stephani" to "Stephano de Sedgrave" dated 2 Nov 1230[500]. m thirdly (17 Oct 1251) as her second husband, JOAN, widow of PAUL Peyvre or Piper, daughter of --- (-1256, bur Woburn).
John & his first wife had two children:

i) REYNOLD de Grey.
ii) EMMA de Grey. m. WILLIAM de Huntingfield, son of ---.

John & his second wife had one child:

iii) REYNOLD de Grey of Ruthin, Denbighshire, and Wilton, Herefordshire (-5 Apr 1308). He was summoned to Parliament 1290/1295, whereby he is held to have become Lord Grey (of Wilton). Inquisitions following a writ dated 5 Apr "1 Edw II", after the death of "Reginald de Grey alias Le Grey”, name “John his son, aged 40 and more [...aged 30 and more...aged 50], is his next heir [...aged 40 or more...aged 41 at the said feast...aged 30 and more...aged 50...aged 36 and more]”[501]. m MATILDA de Longchamp, daughter of HENRY de Longchamp of Wilton, Herefordshire & his wife --- (-before 21 Nov 1302). She is not named in the Inquisitions followed her husband’s death. Reynold & his wife had children:

(1) JOHN de Grey of Wilton ([1257/58] or [1267/68]-[28 Oct] 1323). Inquisitions following a writ dated 5 Apr "1 Edw II", after the death of "Reginald de Grey alias Le Grey”, name “John his son, aged 40 and more [...aged 30 and more...aged 50], is his next heir [...aged 40 or more...aged 41 at the said feast...aged 30 and more...aged 50...aged 36 and more]”[502]. Lord Grey (of Wilton). - Lords Grey (of Wilton

c) WILLIAM de Grey of Sandiacre. m ---. William & his wife had children:

i) RICHARD de Grey of Sandiacre (-1298). m LUCY, daughter of ---. Richard & his wife had children:

(1) WILLIAM de Grey of Sandiacre. m JOAN, daughter of ---. William & his wife had children:

(a) RICHARD de Grey of Sandiacre (-1310). m FELICIA, daughter of ---. Richard & his wife had children:

(i) WILLIAM de Grey of Sandiacre.

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Sir John de Grey in Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. 23.

"GREY, Sir JOHN de (d. 1266), judge, was second son of Henry de Grey, first baron Grey of Codnor,by his wife Isolda, the eldest of the nieces of Robert Bardolf, aud possibly related to Walter de Grey, archbishop of York [q.v.] Having a seat at Eaton, near Fenny Stratford,he served as sheriff of Buckinghamshire and Bedfordshire in the twenty-third year of Henry III, and seven years later became constable of the castle of Gannoc in North Wales, and justice of Chester. In the thirty-fifth year of Henry III he married Johanna, widow of Paulinus Peiure. The king, however, had destined her for another husband, and for thus marrying her without the royal license Grey was fined five hundred marks, and lost his appointments in Wales. He took the cross in 1252, and on his return from the crusade was received again into favour, and in 1253 was forgiven his fine and debts to the crown to the extent of 300l. (see Rot. Fin. i. 453,ii. 119, 167). He was also appointed steward of Gascony and custos of the castles of Northampton, Shrewsbury, and Dover. In 1255 he withdrew from court, disliking the course taken by the royal councillors, and pleading old age. But in 1258 he was one of the twelve representatives of the commonalty, and of the twenty-four 'a treiter de aide le rei' (Ann. Burt, pp, 449, 450). He was also appointed by the barons one of the counsellors to Prince Edward, and castellan of Hereford (ib. pp. 445, 453), In 1260 be became a justice in eyre in Somersetshire, Dorsetshire, and Devonshire. On 9 July 1261 he was appointed by the king sheriff of Hereford and custos of Hereford Castle (Rot.Pat. 45 Hen.III). In the king's war with his barons he adhered to the king, took command of the army in Wales in February 1263, in July his house was attacked by the Londoners, and he escaped with difficulty (Ann. Dunst. iii. 223; see Wright, Pol. Songs, p. 62). He was one of the kind's sureties that he would abide by the award made by King Louis of France, and in 1265. after the battle of Evesham, was made sheriff of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. He died In the following year. By his first wife, Emma, daughter and heiress of Geoffrey de Glanville, he had a daughter and a son, Reginald, first baron Grey de Wilton (d. 1308) [see under John de Grey, second Lord Grey of Wilton], from whom descend the Earl of Wilton and Marquis of Ripon."

Sources
Foss's Judges of England, vol. 2.
Dugdale's Baronage, i. 712, 716.
Matthew Paris's Chronicle (Rolls Ser.), vol. v.
Shirley's Royal Letters of Henry III (Rolls Ser.), vol. li.
Nicolas: Peerage Synopsis

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from Daniel Lysons and Samuel Lysons, Magna Britannia: Vol. 5, Derbyshire (London, 1817), pp. xlviii-lxii. British History Online "General History, Nobility":

"Grey, Baron Grey de Wilton. —This noble family, who derived their descent from John de Grey, a younger brother of Richard, the first Lord Grey of Codnor, had, for some generations, a seat at Shirland. Sir Henry Grey was summoned to parliament 50 Edw. III., by the style of Henry Grey de Shirland, Chevalier. Henry, the last Lord Grey de Wilton, of the male line, died in 1614; Shirland had some time before passed out of the family. The title was, in 1784, revived in the Egerton family, who were descended from a sister of the last Lord Grey. This Baronial family took their distinguishing appellation, from Wilton-castle, in Herefordshire, which they had acquired by marriage with the heiress of Longchamp."
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'Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage', (Vol. 10) cites Sir John as being "of Wilton". Apart from this mild error, the short bio in this old source is correct.
Note: Greater clarity and substance can be found in revised and expanded volumes of Burke's works. They are not available to read for free online at home. Online reading requires paying a subscription fee or finding a library that pays a public access fee.
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John de Grey, Chief Justice of Chester at FamilySearch.org

Sir John de Grey, Sheriff of Buckingham & Bedford[1,2,3,4[
M, #15096, b. circa 1202, d. circa 18 March 1266
Father: Henry de Grey, 1st Baron Grey of Codnor b. c 1182, d. a 1224
Mother: Isolda de Bardolf b. c 1182, d. b 18 Jun 1246
Sir John de Grey, Sheriff of Buckingham & Bedford Vernon M. Norr (Some Early English Pedigrees) says that he married Maud de Longchamp, daughter of Godfrey Longchamp (signer of Magna Charta) and Isabel/Elizabeth Minors.
He was born circa 1202 at of Shirland, Derbyshire, England.
He married Emma de Cauz, daughter of Roger de Cauz and Nichole de Leigh, circa 1234.[2,3,4]
Sir John de Grey, Sheriff of Buckingham & Bedford died circa 18 March 1266.
Spouse: Emma de Cauz

Children
Nichole de Grey+3 d. a 30 May 1277
Sir Reginald de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Wilton+ d. 5 Apr 1308
Emme de Grey+2,4 b. c 1235, d. 1264

Citations

1. The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VI, p. 665
2. Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1162.
3.Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 439.
4. https://gw.geneanet.org/lard?lang=en&pz=jean+charles&nz=terlinden&p...

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John Grey, Lord Grey of Codnor, Sheriff of Buckingham

Born: 1208 - Shirland, Derbyshire Deceased 18 March 1266, aged 58 years old
Parents: Henry GREY, -of Turroc, sir - ca 1161-1219 Isolda BARDOLF ca 1168-/1246
Spouses and Children:

I. Joane Peyvre ca 1221-

1. F Hawise GREY ca 1239- Married about 1261, Drayton, Staffordshire, to Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset of Drayton ca 1242-1299

II. Emma de Glanville (Parents : Geoffrey de Glanville, Lord of Cobham ca 1165-ca 1257 & Margaret De La HAYE 1188-)

2. F Emma Grey †1264 Married to William de Hungtingfield 1237-/1290

III. Emma de Cauz ca 1212- (Parents : Roger III de Cauz 1178- & Nicole De LEIGH ca 1188-)

3. F Nichole Grey ca 1226-1277/ Married to Robert de Tatteshall, Baron de Tatteshall ca 1222-1273
4. M Reginald Grey, 1st baron Grey of Wilton (1295) ca 1247-1308 Married to Maud FitzHUGH
5. M Reginald Grey, 1st baron Grey of Wilton (1295) ca 1247-1308 Married to Maud de Longchamp †/1302

Siblings

M Robert Grey, -of Rotherfield ca 1190-
M Richard Grey, - of Codnor †/1271
M Hugh Grey ca 1203-
M William Grey, - of Sandiacre ca 1204-

Notes: Sheriff of Buckingham; Chief Justice of Chester; Governor of Dover Castle; Constable of Gannock Castle Sir John De Grey, was sheriff of Buckingham and Bedford in 1233. He was summoned with horse and arms to attend King Henry III. into Flanders in 1241. He married the Lady Joane, widow of Pauline Pevere. He was very loyal to the King and held many high offices and died in 1265.

Sir John de Grey held the office of Sheriff for the counties of Buckingham and Bedford (1233.) Made an expedition into Flanders with King Henry III in 1241. In 1252, he was appointed governor of Northampton Castle and the next year was made Stewart of all Gascony. Four years later he was nominated to the governorship of Shrewsbury Castle, and constable of that of Dover. In 1262 he was Sheriff of Herefordshire and governor of Hereford Castle. The next year he had custody of all the lands of Anker de Frescheville, in the counties of Nottingham and Derby He was appointed Sheriff of Nottingham and Derby. He died in 1265 and was succeeded by his son, Reginald.

Occupations: 1233 Sheriff of Buckingham and Bedford, Sheriff of Nottingham and Derby, 1252 Governor of Northampton Castle, 1253 Stewart of all Gascony, 1257 Governor of Shrewsbury Castle, 1262 Governor of Hereford Castle, 1262 Sheriff of Herefordshire, Justice of Chester

Sources

1. rootsweb.ancestry.com Family 1
2. geneanet.org Family 3
3. ancestry.com rootsweb; geneanet.org [http://gw3.geneanet.org/index.php3?]
4. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 255.
5. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 378.

from Our Royal Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins Sir John de Grey

Sir John de Grey1
M, #213457, d. before 18 March 1265/66
Last Edited=3 Nov 2010

Sir John de Grey was the son of Henry de Grey and Isolda Bardolf.2 He married, secondly, Emma de Cauz, daughter of Roger de Cauz and Nichole de Leigh.3 He married, firstly, Emma de Glanville, daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Glanville.2 He married, thirdly, Joane (?) in October 1251.3 He died before 18 March 1265/66.3

He held the office of Justice of Chester.3 He held the office of Sheriff of Buckinghamshire in 1239.2 He held the office of Sheriff of Bedfordshire in 1239.2 He held the office of Sheriff of Herefordshire in 1253.2 He lived at Shirland, Derbyshire, England.3

Child of Sir John de Grey

1.Sir Henry Grey+4

Children of Sir John de Grey and Emma de Glanville

2.Reynold de Grey3
3. Emma de Grey3

Child of Sir John de Grey and Emma de Cauz

4.Sir Reynold de Grey, 1st Lord Grey (of Wilton)+5 d. 5 Apr 1308

Citations

1. Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family."
2. L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 136.
3. Volume 2, page 1665. See link for full details for source [S37].
4. Page 797. See link for full details for source [S47].
5. See. [S37]

from The Peerage (Database Online) John de Grey

John de Grey (Sir Sheriff of Buckingham & Bedford)
Father: Henry de Grey (Sir)
Mother: Isolda de Bardolph
Born: 1205, Shirland, Derbyshire, England / 1214, Thurrock, Essex, England
Died: ABT 18 Mar 1265/6, Shirland, Derby, England
Buried: Shirland, Derbyshire, England
Notes: Justice of Chester. Vernon M. Norr (Some Early English Pedigrees) says that he married Maud de Longchamp, dau. of Godfrey Longchamp (signer of Magna Charta) and Isabel/Elizabeth Minors.
3x Married

I. Emma de Glanville (dau. of Geoffrey de Glanville; Lord of Bromholm and Margaret de la Haye) ABT 1230; Child: 1. Emma de Grey
II. Emma de Caux (dau. of Roger de Cauz and Nicole Leigh, dau. of Bartholomew Leigh) ABT 1232, Shirland, Derbyshire, England; Child: 2. Reginald de Grey (1° B. Grey of Wilton)
III. Joan de Pevere 17 Oct 1251, London, Middlesex, England; Child: 3. Hawise de Grey

from Tudor Place De GREY Sir John de Grey
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from Wikipedia (last edited 1 Nov 2021) Sir John de Grey
Sir John de Grey (died 1266) was an English soldier and high sheriff.

John was the second son of Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock in Essex. He served as High Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire in 1238–39 and of High Sheriff of Herefordshire in 1252–53, undertaking military service in Flanders in 1232. He lived at Shirland in Derbyshire, married three times and his son, by his second wife, was Reginald de Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Wilton. He was accordingly an ancestor of many of the noble houses with the surname Grey. He died in March 1266.

Source 1: Burke's Peerage and Baronetage (1939), s.v. Grey de Ruthyn
Source 2: Stephen, Leslie; Lee, Sidney, eds. (1890). "Grey, John de (d.1266)" . Dictionary of National Biography. Vol. 23. London: Smith, Elder & Co.
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John De Grey was born about 1205 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England. He died in Mar 1265. He married Joan 17 0ct 1251 in London, Middlesex, England.

Joan was born about 1211 in Possibly London, Middlesex, England. She died in 1256 in Sp, Leyham, , England. She married John De Grey 17 0ct 1251 in London, Middlesex, England.

They had the following children:

  F i Hawise (Hesewise) De Grey 

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"The Grey family received Wilton Castle, in Herefordshire, thought their marriage to Maud, heiress of the Longchamp's.2 Reginald, 1st Baron Grey of Wilton was born in 1237.2 He was the son of John de Grey of Wilton, Justice of Chester and Joane, Lady Peyvre.1,2 Reginald, 1st Baron Grey of Wilton married Maud FitzHugh, daughter of William, Lord FitzHugh and Hawys de Longchamp.2 Reginald, 1st Baron Grey of Wilton obtained, in consideration of his faithful services to the king, special livery of all his father's lands, although he had not then done his homage in 1265.2 (1280/81) In the 9th Edward I, made justice of Chester, and merited so well, that for his manifold services he had part of the honour of Monmouth conferred upon him by the king; and in further recompense of his services obtained the castle of Ruthyn and other lands.2 Arms: Barry argent and azure, a label gules.3 (1293/94) In the 22nd Edward I, received command to be at Portsmouth, to attend the king in Gascony, then menaced by the French.2 (1294/95) In the 23rd Edward I, summoned to parliament as a baron.2 He was summoned to parliaments from 23 June 1295 to 26 August 1307.4 (1296/97) In the 25th Edward I, on the king going into Flanders and committing the government of England in his absence to Prince Edward, appointed Lord Grey the prince's assistant.2 He died in 1308 at age 71 years.2"