It appears that it is not entirey clear whether Raoul/Ranulf de la Haye was the son of Thurstan Haldup (who was Baron of La Haye-du-Puits) or if Raoul married into the family and gained the title through his wife. Cawley claims the latter, while Davies, a local historian from the Cotentin in Normandy, positions Raoul as Thurstan's son. Here are my notes from Davies' book (which is in French):

In "Les Barons du Cotentin", Alan Davies lists four sons as the children of Turtain Gotz (Thurstan le Goz) and Judith de Monterolier:

• Renouf (mort avant 1090)
• Turstin (Turtain) Haldup, ancestre des barons de La Haye-du-Puits
• Gislebert d'Avranches
• Richard Gotz, dit RIchard d'Avranches (1024-1082), vicomte de lieu en 1050, epousa Emma de Comteville demi-soeur du duc Guillaume

Davies says that Thurstan Haldup was Baron of La Haye-du-Puits et du Plessis; possessed numerous domaines in the Cotentin and Calvados and was the founder of the Abbaya of Lessay in 1056, with the accord of the bishop of Coutances (Geoffroy de Montbray). He died before 1080. From his marriage with Emma/Anne of Normandie, daughter of Richard II, he had notably two sons:

• Raoul, senechal for Count Robert de Mortain, died on crusade. Father of Robert, who became seigneur de La Haye following the death of his uncle Eudes.
• Eudes-au-Capel, baron of La Haye, senechal of Normandy.

Eudes appeared in many charters around 1080, and undertook to resolve the disputes of his office. Benefactor of the Abbey of Lessay, Eudes was buried there 3 Feb 1098, leaving the barony without posterity (no offspring).

His successor was his nephew, Robert de la Haye (Senior), son of Raoul, who inherited the seigneurie and died before 1154. From his marriage with Muriel de Colswein de Lincoln was born

Richard, baron de La Haye, and Raoul, seigneur de Montchaton (on the Seine River, next to the chateau de Regneville), who had many offspring. The brothers were at the defense of Cherbourg against Geoffroy Plantagenet. Richard, constable of Normandy, baron de la Haye, died in 1169. In 1154 he founded the Abbey of Blanchelande. From his marriage in 1140 with Mathilde de Vernon dame de Varenguebec, were born three daughters, of whom Gillette, who married Richard II du Hommet. Thus the barony of La Haye-du-Puits entered into the Hommet family.

Please note that Davies' account contrasts with that of Cawley in that Davies names Raoul (Ranulf) as the son of Thurstan while Cawley posits that it was in fact Thurstan's daughter who was married to Raoul/Ranulf.

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SEIGNEURS de LA HAYE

According to Domesday Descendants, this family originated in La Haye-du-Puits in the Cotentin, Normandy {Manche}[1310]. The founding charter of Boxgrove Priory in Sussex states that the founder, Robert de La Haye, was "consanguineo" of Henry I King of England. The precise relationship has not yet been traced.

1. --- (-after Oct 1066). Seigneur de La Haye. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de la Haye" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1311]. m ---. One child:

a) RANULF . Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. m ---, daughter of THURSTAN Haldup & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1312]. Ranulf & his wife had one child:

i) ROBERT de La Haye ([1075/80]-[1150]). A manuscript recording the founding of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex states that it was founded by “Roberti di Haya…consanguineo eius” [referring to King Henry], to whom Henry I King of England had granted “honorem Halnaci” [Halmaker] in Sussex, and given to the abbey of Essay in Normandy[1313]. According to Domesday Descendants, this was land which had been forfeited by William de Ansleville[1314]. In the foundation charter of the priory he names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1315]. Domesday Descendants dates the foundation to "before 1105"[1316], which would place Robert´s birth in [1075/80], bearing in mind his date of death. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][1317].

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Raoul de la Haye and Olive de Rie were the parents of Robert, baron de la Haye-du-Puits [%C3%89ric Van Torhoudt, L’écrit et la justice au Mont Saint-Michel: les notices narratives, vers 1060-1150, 2007], who married Muriel de Lincoln. Their son was Richard, baron de la Haye-du-Puits et de Varenquebec. The barony was to later pass to the descendant of the Crispin family of Neaufles, direct decendants of Herolfr Turstain. Richard Turstin: Baron de La Haye du Puits et le Plessis [Fresne] et Appeville: A clue to his origins is given in the latter holding: The family of Appeville were the family of Montfort-sur-Rille; 'La famille d'Appeville doit tirer son origine de l'une des trois paroisses de ce nom, situées en Normandie, 1° Appeville [depuis Annebaut], canton de Montfort-sur-Rille, arrondissement de Pont-Audemer(Eure); — 2° Appeville* [Seine-Inf%C3%A9rieure], arrondissement de Dieppe, canton d'Offranville; — 3° Appeville-la-Haye [Manche], arrondissement de Coutances, canton de la Haye-du-Puits' ['Liber censualis', p. 191, 1842]. Ansrid I., as above, was the father of Hugh de Montfort-sur-Risle, brother of Anceline Bertrande; his son was Hugh II. de Montfort-sur-Risle, who married, as said, Alice de Beaufou. Richard Turstin was contemporary to him, and inherited Appeville-la-Haye: 'Seigneurs de la paroisse d'Appeville, canton de la Haye-du-Puits, dans la Manche, la charte de fondation de l'abbaye de Lessay, nous apprend que Turstin Hadulp, ainsi que son fils Eudes, donnèrent à ce monastère, tout ce qu'ils possédaient tant en églises qu'en terres, bois, prairies , etc. en Apavilla et en Osulfivilla' [ibid.]. The latter holding can be assumed to have been that of Osulf, father of Grimoult du Plessis, strongly suggesting a connection between Richard Turstin's wife, Emma, and the family of Plessis - see ch. xiv. b. * A tenant there was William d'Arques.

SEIGNEURS de LA HAYE

Source: Cawley Medieval Lands Database
"According to Domesday Descendants, this family originated in La Haye-du-Puits in the Cotentin, Normandy {Manche}[1593]. The founding charter of Boxgrove Priory in Sussex states that the founder, Robert de La Haye, was "consanguineo" of Henry I King of England. The precise relationship has not yet been traced."

• First name unknown. (died after Oct 1066). Seigneur de La Haye. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de la Haye" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1594]. m ---. [Wife's name also unknown]

One child:

1. RANULF . Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. m ---, daughter of THURSTAN Haldup & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1595].

Ranulf & his wife had one child:

1. ROBERT de La Haye ([1075/80]-[1150]). A manuscript recording the founding of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex states that it was founded by “Roberti di Haya…consanguineo eius” [referring to King Henry], to whom Henry I King of England had granted “honorem Halnaci” [Halmaker] in Sussex, and given to the abbey of Essay in Normandy[1596]. According to Domesday Descendants, this was land which had been forfeited by William de Ansleville[1597]. In the foundation charter of the priory he names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1598]. Domesday Descendants dates the foundation to "before 1105"[1599], which would place Robert´s birth in [1075/80], bearing in mind his date of death. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][1600].

Curator Note: 'The parentage of Aubreye (Auberée, Aubrey), wife of Honfrois (Humphrey) de Vieilles is not known. There are conflicting theories about her parentage.

Cawley Medieval Lands Database

• Sources differ as to Aubreye (Auberée, Aubrey)'s parentage. FMG (Cawley Medieval Lands Database) leaves her parents unknown. Others say that she is a de la Haye.
• Her birth date is unknown. Michael Stanhope's source gives her death date as December 28, 1045.
• She married Honfroi (Humphrey) de Vieilles. Their children were:

1. 'Rodbertus de Bellomonte, filius Unfredi.'
   
2. Guillaume de Bellomonte, who gave to Saint-Léger de Préaux la forêt de Beaumont.
   
3. Roger de Beaumont, (Roger de Vieilles "Barbatus" [de Beaumont]) alias Belomonte, Baron de Beaumesnil, who married Adeline, ADELINE de Meulan, daughter of GALERAN [III] Comte de Meulan & his first wife Ode, sister of Hugues II, Comte de Meulan
   
4. Dunelme, a daughter, who married and had a daughter
   

Sources and Notes

The primary source is Cawley Medieval Lands Database which while it is sometimes in error (missing information) is more reliable for these early Medieval historical figures than random Internet family trees or peerage sources by far. PLEASE USE ONLY RELIABLE SOURCES FOR THE MEDIEVAL PERIOD. If you are in doubt, ask Pam Wilson or Justin Swanstrom or another of the curators who specialize in the Medieval era.

http://stanhopefamilyhistory.webs.com/

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Other Theories Link Abreye with the de la Haye Family

This information needs a reliable, scholarly source, not an Internet "pedigree" with no primary sources cited.

RICHARD de St. SAUVEUR (TURSTIN HALDUC), Baron de La Haye du Puits & Le Plessis (see under St. Sauveur and Bertram for ancestors), d bef 1080, m ANN

 Eudo, Seigneur de la Haie, accompanied the Conqueror and became an important Baron in Essex 1086, d 1098. 

La HAIE - Seigneurs

RICHARD de St. SAUVEUR (TURSTIN HALDUC), Baron de La Haye du Puits & Le Plessis (see under St. Sauveur and Bertram for ancestors ) d bef 1080, m ANN Eudo, Seigneur de la Haie, accompanied the Conqueror and became an important Baron in Essex 1086, d 1098.

 Eustache, his heir, m 1stly  XE "MANDERVILLE - Earls of Essex" Geoffrey de Manderville, 2nd Earl of Essex; & she 2ndly m Ansel, Comte de St. Pol  

RALPH (RAOUL) de la HAYE
RALPH (Dapifer) de la HAYE, Seneschal to ROBERT, Comte de Mortaigne, d on 1st Crusade (went with Duke ROBERT of Normandy), m OLIVIA d’ALBINI (see under Albini for ancestors)

 ROBERT, Constable of Lincoln, Steward to King HENRY I in Normandy

ROBERT de la HAYE, m MURIEL, dau of EUDO al CHAPEL (see under Chapel for ancestors)

RICHARD, Baron de La Haye, Constable of Lincoln, Steward to HENRY II

Ralph (Raoul), Baron de Le Plessis
HUGUES, Baron de La Haye Bellefond
WILLIAM, Pincerna or Butler of Scotland, ancestor of the Earls of Errol and Marquises of Tweedesdale
Geoffrey, Baron de Le Plessis
Renouf, held lands in Essex 1166
ROBERT 2ndly m Muriel, dau and heir of the Saxon, Colswein of Lincoln XE "Colswein, the Saxon of Lincoln" . Lord of Brattlesby Note: some claim that RICHARD was this 2nd Muriel’s son

RICHARD de la HAYE, d 1169, m MAUD, dau of WILLIAM de VERNON

  Gille, m Richard du Hommet

  ISABELLA, m RICHARD de RULLOS (see under Rullos for descendants)

NICOLA, m 1stly GERALD de CAMVILLE (see under Camville for descendants)xe "VERNON"; she 2ndly m OLIVER DEINCOURT (see under Deincourt for descendants)
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Ranulf De la Haye took part and died in the First Crusade as stated in: " http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm B. FAMILY of THURSTAN HALDUP

1. THURSTAN [Richard] Haldup (-after 1079). "Richardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haralduc cum Emma uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][66]. Henry I King of England confirmed the possessions of Holy Trinity, Lessay, including the donations by "Ricardus qui vocatus est Turstinus Haldup et Eudo filius eius", by charter dated 1126[67]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][68]. m EMMA, daughter of --- (-after 1079). "Richardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haralduc cum Emma uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][69]. Thurstan & his wife had four children:

a) EUDES (-after [1081]). "Richardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haralduc cum Emma uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][70]. Henry I King of England confirmed the possessions of Holy Trinity, Lessay, including the donations by "Ricardus qui vocatus est Turstinus Haldup et Eudo filius eius", by charter dated 1126[71]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][72]. [Vicomte de Contentin. "…Eudo vicecomes Constantini…" witnessed the charter dated to [1060] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy granted "Brenerias" to the abbey of Bayeux[73]. Delisle suggests that Eudes was the son of Thurstan Haldup. However, it appears more likely that he was the younger brother of Vicomte Néel [II].] "Eudo filius Turstini" donated his part of "villa…Helville" to the abbey of Marmoutier by charter dated to [1081][74].

b) EMMA (-[1090/95]). She is named by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father, and as children of her marriage, Guillaume, Reginald, Petronilla, Geva and "several other sons and daughters"[75]. Orderic Vitalis records that, after the murder of her husband, she took refuge with her brother Eudo "steward of the Duke of Normandy" (with which title he must be distinguished from Eudes de Rie, son of Hubert de Rie, see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY), and passed "almost 30 years of honourable widowhood there"[76]. m ARNAUD d'Echaffour, son of GUILLAUME & his first wife Hiltrude --- (-I Jan [1065]).

c) daughter . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][77]. m RANULF, son of ---. Seneschal of Robert de Mortain.

d) ADELAIDE . Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of la Trinité de Caen, including the donation by "Adelaidis filie Tustini Haldup" of "alteram medietatem ville de Carpiquet", by charter dated to [1180/82][78].

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E. SEIGNEURS de LA HAYE

According to Domesday Descendants, this family originated in La Haye-du-Puits in the Cotentin, Normandy {Manche}[1593]. The founding charter of Boxgrove Priory in Sussex states that the founder, Robert de La Haye, was "consanguineo" of Henry I King of England. The precise relationship has not yet been traced.

1. --- (-after Oct 1066). Seigneur de La Haye. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de la Haye" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[1594]. m ---. One child:

a) RANULF . Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. m ---, daughter of THURSTAN Haldup & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1595]. Ranulf & his wife had one child:

i) ROBERT de La Haye ([1075/80]-[1150]). A manuscript recording the founding of Boxgrove Priory, Sussex states that it was founded by “Roberti di Haya…consanguineo eius” [referring to King Henry], to whom Henry I King of England had granted “honorem Halnaci” [Halmaker] in Sussex, and given to the abbey of Essay in Normandy[1596]. According to Domesday Descendants, this was land which had been forfeited by William de Ansleville[1597]. In the foundation charter of the priory he names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][1598]. Domesday Descendants dates the foundation to "before 1105"[1599], which would place Robert´s birth in [1075/80], bearing in mind his date of death. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][1600].

- LA HAYE:http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm

Seneschal of Robert de Mortain.

Described here in Medlands: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc352825313 (Seigneurs de la Haye) - his father participated in the invasion of England by the Normans in 1066.