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Phillip Cumton (Cumton/Comyn) (1160 - 1242)

Also Known As: "Philip de Compton", "Lord Phillip Cumton", "Lord Phillip Comyn"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Compton, Devon, England
Death: 1242 (81-82)
Compton, Devon, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Osbert de Arden, of Kingsbury and Matilda NN
Husband of Basilia (or?) Basita de Insula
Father of Thomas de Compton, of Compton; William de Compton and Robert de Compton
Brother of Amice de Arden; Osbert de Arden, of Kingsbury and Peter NN

Managed by: Lisa Frances Davis
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About Philip de Compton

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  • Name/Given Name: Philip
  • Name/Surname: de Compton
  • Name/Birth Surname: de Compton
  • Name/Display Name: (blank)
  • Also Known As: Lord Phillip Cumton,Lord Phillip Comyn
  • Place of Birth/Place Name: (blank)
  • Place of Birth/City: Compton
  • Place of Birth/County: Devon (should be Warwickshire?)
  • Place of Birth/Country: England
  • Place of Death/Place Name: (blank)
  • Place of Death/City: Compton
  • Place of Death/County: Devon (should be Warwickshire?)
  • Place of Death/Country: England

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From Stirnet's "Arden1" page (link below):

<This> Philip (and <his brother> Peter) are identified as of this generation by Collins (see the continuation <on Stirnet's "Compton01" page, which is duplicated immediately below>).

From Stirnet's "Compton01" page (link below):

Collins starts the article on this family as follows: "That this family is denominated from the lordship of Compton in com. Warw. appears from several authorities, being descended from ancestors, who were lords of the place before the conquest."

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Given name has also been reported to be Phillip.

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The Name of Compton was Anglified from Cumton

then once more from the Normans Comyn from Comines

the name means in Old English cumb ‘short, straight valley’ + tun ‘enclosure’, ‘settlement’

or for an area in old flanders Comines-Warneton (Dutch: Komen-Waasten) is a Walloon municipality located in the Belgian province of Hainaut

Or It could be Cumb = Cumbria and Ton for settlement simple

Possibly meaning Compton / Cumton / Comyn / Comin / Comine / Comines / Komen

Robert Comine or Comyn came from a short straight valley settlement in Cumbria or he came from Comines County in Flanders of Belguim

There is a short straight valley in Cumbria called Plumpton which could be the very place our family comes from since there is no trace or family lines in flanders

It is said he could have been a Flemish Baron named Robert who came from Flanders the area of Comines and came over with William the Conqueror.

But there has never been any real proof of this the Wynyate clain he is the son or Osbert but the Comyn had a soon named Osbert as well who died in battle of Dumfries along with his father then they say that Osbert was the son of Turchill and he was son of Walthe of Siwardsson which then makes him the son of Siward and him the son of Sir Guy.

but it truly amazing that Walthe son Siward was also the earl of North Umbria and so was Robert Comines/Comyn

Is this Folk lore or is it an attempt to legitimize there family line no one really knows..

I have done DNA testing and so Has my dad and Uncle we all carry Y DNA markers and my great uncle and grand father my family has always said that we are from Scottish back ground but having last name of Compton has always brought questions.

How did we obtain a English name but yet have Scottish blood as they put it. So I started this search and have came to this point. I want facts not fork lore and I just find it very hard to follow the Arden family story it has took me 4 years to find out what I have and I am not saying it all 100% correct but this is what I have managed to find out from many families and people.

thank you and if you have any info that may help fork lore or stories or documents please feel free to contact me..

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