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Papia Poppée Poppa de Enver, Concubine

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Brionne, Haute-Normandie, France
Death: 1031 (91-101)
France?
Immediate Family:

Ex-partner of Richard I, 'the Fearless', Duke of Normandy
Mother of Papia de Normandie

Occupation: concubine
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About Papia (Concubine of Richard I)

Richard I had several children by mistresses. Papia is a possible first name for one of these.

Children:

Beatrix

(Papia)

MEDIEVAL LANDS

Richard had five illegitimate children by unknown mistresses:

9. GEOFFREY [Godfroy] de Brionne ([953]-[1015]). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Godefroi et Guillaume" as the two sons of Duke Richard by his concubines, recording that the former was Comte d'Eu[129]. Robert of Torigny names "unus Godefridus alter…Willermus" as sons of "Ricardi primi ducis Normanniæ" by concubines[130]. He is named son of duke "Richard the elder" by Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that his father gave Brionne "with the whole county" to him[131]. Comte d'Eu after 996.

- COMTES d'EU.

10. GUILLAUME (978-1057). According to Dudo of Saint-Quentin[132], he was an illegitimate son of Richard I by a mistress other than Gunnora. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Godefroi et Guillaume" as the two sons of Duke Richard by his concubines[133]. Robert of Torigny names "unus Godefridus alter…Willermus" as sons of "Ricardi primi ducis Normanniæ" by concubines, recording that Guillaume was first "comes…Aucensis" and after the death of his brother became "comes Brionnensis"[134]. On the other hand, according to Europäische Stammtafeln[135], he was the younger son of Geoffroy de Brionne, Richard I's illegitimate son, although the source on which this is based is not known. An agreement between the abbots of Jumièges and Bougeuil concerning an exchange of land in Poitou, by charter dated [13 Apr/4 Apr] 1012, is subscribed by "Richardus…filius Ricardi principi magni…Robertus archiepiscopus…ecclesie Rotomagensis et Vuillelmus et Malgerus fratres Richardi comitis…"[136]. Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu. Guillaume de Jumièges records the rebellion of "un certain frère du duc, né du meme père…Guillaume" against Duke Richard, after receiving the county of Hiesme, his capture and imprisonment for five years at Rouen, his escape and investment as Comte d'Eu by his brother[137].

- COMTES d'EU.

11. [ROBERT . Comte d'Avranches. Illegitimate son of Richard I according to Potts[138].]

12. BEATRIX (-18 Jan 1035). Guillaume de Jumièges records that Duke Richard had two daughters by his concubines but does not name them[139]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis records that "sorore Richardi Normannorum Ducis" was the wife of "Archambaldus Chamba-Putrida" and mother of "Ebolum"[140], but this is difficult to sustain chronologically. The Miracles of Sainte-Foy attribute a miracle to "Lady Beatrice his [Lord Ebalus] wife…soon to lose him through divorce" involving her freeing pilgrims from captivity near Turenne[141]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage more precisely has not yet been identified. She returned to Normandy after her divorce and was appointed Abbess of Montivilliers [1035][142].

m (before 1001, divorced) as his first wife, EBLES Vicomte de Turenne, son of ARCHAMBAUD "Jambe-Pourrie" Vicomte de Comborn & his wife Sulpicie de Turenne (-after [1021]).

13. daughter . Guillaume de Jumièges records that Duke Richard had two daughters by his concubines but does not name them[143]. same person as…? [PAPIA ). Robert de Torigny names "Papiam uxorem Walteri [error for Gilberti?] de Sanct Walerico et Aeliz uxorem Ranulfi Vicecomitis de Baioeis" as the two daughters of Duke Richard III (see below)[144]. In the case of Papia, it is clearly chronologically impossible for her to have been Duke Richard III´s daughter assuming that it is correct, as asserted by Orderic Vitalis[145], that her grandson, Richard de Heugleville, helped Guillaume II Duke of Normandy in the 1054 rebellion when he was already old enough for Geoffroy de Neufmarché to be his son-in-law. Orderic Vitalis refers to the wife of Gilbert de Saint-Valéry as the daughter of "Duke Richard", although it is not clear from this passage to which duke Richard he refers. He confirms her name as Papia in a different passage[146]. The second passage also elaborates that Papia was daughter of "Ricardi iunioris ducis Normannorum", which does suggest that he also intended to indicate Duke Richard III. Neither of the passages in Orderic Vitalis names Papia's mother. It is tempting to imagine that she was the second wife of Duke Richard II of the same name. However, it is also chronologically inconsistent with the 1054 references to Papia's grandson for Papia to have been the daughter of Duke Richard II. Assuming that all this speculation is correct, Papia must have been born in the early years of the 11th century and therefore, if she was the daughter of any Duke Richard, her father must have been Duke Richard I.

m GILBERT Advocate of Saint Valéry, son of ---.]

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Papia (Concubine of Richard I)'s Timeline

935
935
Brionne, Haute-Normandie, France
980
980
Capelle-les-Grands, Eure, Upper Normandy, France
1031
1031
Age 96
France?
1954
March 24, 1954
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March 24, 1954
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March 24, 1954
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March 24, 1954
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October 8, 1954
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October 29, 1954
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1955
February 16, 1955
Age 96