Hawise de Mortimer

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ROGER [I] de Mortemer (-[1078/86]). Seigneur de Mortemer-sur-Eaulne, near Neufchâtel-en-Brai, Normandy. [same person as…? ROGER, son of HUGUES d´Ivry Bishop of Bayeux & his [wife/mistress ---] (-after [1037/55]). The question of the possible co-identity of Roger [I] de Mortemer and Roger, son of the bishop, is discussed in the Introduction to the present chapter.] Roger de Mortemer was related to the Warenne family but the precise relationship has not been determined, as discussed further in the Introduction above. Orderic Vitalis records that "Roberti Aucensis comiitis et Rogerii de Mortuomari" led the Norman forces ("Caletorum catervam" = troops from the pays de Caux) who defeated Eudes, brother of Henri I King of France ("Odonem fratrem suum") "apud Mortuum-mare" in 1054[225]. In a later passage, recounting a death-bed speech of William I King of England, the same source records that "Rogerium de Mortuomari et omnes Caletenses" had defeated the French troops "apud Mortuum-Mare" but that "Rogerius princeps" helped the escape of "Rodulfus…comes" (identified more precisely in another passage as "Radulfum comitem de Monte-Desiderii") to whom he had done homage, for which treachery Roger was exiled and his lands confiscated, including "castrum…Mortui Mari" which was granted to "Guillelmo de Guarenna consanguineo eius"[226]. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Rogero de Mortuomari" contributed 120 ships towards the invasion of England in 1066[227], which suggests that he had been fully reconciled with the future William I King of England by that time. He acquired land at Wigmore which had been forfeited by Roger Earl of Hereford in 1075[228]. "…Rotberto de Bello Monte, Henrici de Bello Monte, Rotberti Gifordi, Rogerii de Mortuo Mari, Goiffridi de Calvo Monte, Radulfi dapiferi, Mauricii cancellarii, Willelmi de Warenna, Gundrede uxoris W. de Warenna" subscribed the undated charter under which William I King of England confirmed the donation by William de Warenne of the church of St Pancras to the monastery of Cluny[229], dated to [1078/81] by the Complete Peerage[230]. Roger is not named in Domesday Book in 1086.

m HAWISE, daughter of --- (-after her husband). The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, records that "Rogier de Mortemer" married "la Contesse de Glochestre que Jehan de la Chapelle avoit amée" after the conquest of England[231]. "Hadvise et Radulfi filii eius" donated land "in episcopatu Ambianensium apud Mers" to Saint-Victor-en-Caux by undated charter (a copy of which is attached to a late-12th century transcription of a charter under which Hugh de Mortimer confirmed donations to the monastery)[232]. As her husband is not named in the grant, it is likely that she outlived him. Roger de Mortemer & his wife had one child:

a) RALPH [I] de Mortemer [Mortimer] (-5 Aug after [1115/18]). "Hadvise et Radulfi filii eius" donated land "in episcopatu Ambianensium apud Mers" to Saint-Victor-en-Caux by undated charter (a copy of which is attached to a late-12th century transcription of a charter under which Hugh de Mortimer confirmed donations to the monastery)[233]. He succeeded his father as Lord of Wigmore, and of other land in Herefordshire and Shropshire.

Note from the curator: There is much debate as to who the father of Hadewisa is, as there is to her husband Roger de Mortimer, but JR Planche in his the Conqueror and his Companions states the following:

"Ralph III., surnamed "the Great," Comte de Valois and Amiens, by Orderic called De Montdidier, who was on the side of the French, succeeded in making his way out of the town, and took refuge in the Castle of Mortemer, where he was sheltered by its victorious lord, who had formerly sworn fealty to him, and who, after entertaining him for three days, safely conducted him to his own territories.

"For this breach of duty to Duke William, Roger de Mortemer was banished from Normandy and his possessions confiscated, but being afterward reconciled to the Duke, had them all restored to him, with the exception of the Castle of Mortemer, in which he had harbored William's enemy Count Ralph, and that the Duke gave to Roger's cousin, young William de Warren; a sufficient answer to those who assert that Roger was his son.

"Orderic, in making the Conqueror allude to the oath of fealty Roger had taken to Count Ralph, does not assign the reason for it or hint that Roger de Mortemer was the Count's son-in-law. Here, at any rate, is some very important light thrown upon the pedigree of Mortemer, as none of the ancient or later genealogists have mentioned the wife of this Roger. Notwithstanding her noble descent, no trace of her is to be found even in the "Art de Verifierles Dates," but her name appears to have been Hadewisa, who possessed of her own inheritance the vill of Mees, at the mouth of the River Bresle, in the diocese of Amiens, and the district called Le Vimieu [Vimeu], and her gifts to the Abbey of St. Victor at this place were confirmed in 1102 by Theobald, Bishop of Amiens. Montdidier is in the same diocese and had been forcibly seized by Count Ralph, who eventually died there September 8, 1074. Roger de Mortemer, therefore, it has been reasonably presumed, did homage to the Count for the lands he held of his fief, and which were given to him in frank marriage with his daughter.

"Still, upon the principal question, who were the parents of this Roger de Mortemer, we have no conclusive evidence; no fact to start from of an earlier date than 1054, when we find him a leader at the battle fought in his own town, beneath the walls of his own castle. His age at that period can be no more determined at present than his parentage; but we see he was married, in possession of the family estates, and had attained sufficient military rank and reputation to be intrusted by Duke William with the chief command of a division of his forces. He was living, as well as his wife, in 1074, when, upon their joint petition, a priory which had been established at St. Victor as a cell to the abbey of St. Ouen was itself erected into an abbey. This was only twenty years after the battle of Mortemer, and unless incapacitated by illness, there is no reason why he should not have been eight years previously in that of Senlac. At all events, he is said to have contributed sixty vessels to the Duke's fleet, and if not himself in the expedition, was doubtlessly represented, either by his son Ralph, or it may be by some other relative named Hugh.

"My reason for the latter suggestion is that Ralph de Mortemer, by his wife Millicent, had two sons, the eldest of whom was named Hugh, and may not have been the first so named in the family, as he certainly was not the last. It is a question, indeed, with some, whether Ralph, if the son of Hadewisa, as there is no reason to doubt, could have been old enough in 1066 to bear arms at Hastings. His mother must have been very young in 1054, and her eldest born, in his infancy. I say eldest born, for it is not proved that Ralph was an only child any more than that his father Roger was an only child..."

A.Linton, Michael. “THE CONQUEROR.” The Conqueror and His Companions, www.1066.co.nz/Mosaic DVD/library/companions/companions.htm. ____________________________________________________

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Advisa was also called Hadvise.

She made a grant of property near Amiens.

She was possibly a kinswoman of Ralph, count of Montdider, or the daughter of one of his vassals.

See "My Lines"

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from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

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