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Archibald de Douglas

Also Known As: "Archibald de Douglas", "Sir Archibald Douglas"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Douglasdale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death: July 18, 1240 (69-78)
Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Immediate Family:

Son of William I, 1st lord of Douglas and ... de Moravia
Husband of Lady Margaret de Crawford
Father of William Longleg, Lord of Douglas and Sir Andrew Douglas of Hermiston
Brother of Bricius de Douglas, bishop of Moray; Alexander de Douglas, vicar capitular of Elgin; Henry de Douglas, a canon of Spynie; Hugh de Douglas, Archdeacon of Moray; Margaret Douglas and 1 other

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About Archibald I, 2nd lord of Douglas


Biography

Extracted from "Archibald I, Lord of Douglas," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, < link > (accessed August 13, 2024).

Archibald of Douglas (before 1198 – died c. 1238) was a Scottish nobleman. He was the son of William of Douglas.

Life

The earliest attestation of his existence is in a charter of confirmation dated prior to 1198. This charter of Jocelin, Bishop of Glasgow, granted the rights of a toft in Glasgow to Melrose Abbey. Archibald's name appears between that of Alan, High Steward of Scotland and Robert de Montgomery. Also before 1198, Archibald appears in another document, again before 1198, in which he resigns the lands of Hailes held by him of the Abbey of Dunfermline, to Robert of Restalrig. Between 1214 and 1226, Archibald acquired the use of the lands of Hermiston and Livingston, with Maol Choluim I, Earl of Fife as his feudal superior.[1] Archibald of Douglas must have been knighted before 1226 as he appears in another charter of Melrose Abbey as 'Dominus de Douglas' witnessing William Purves of Mospennoc granting the Monks of Melrose rights to pass through his lands. Another witness is Andrew, Archibald's knight which highlights his influential position.[2] Archibald de Douglas appears as a signatory to several royal charters following 1226, and he appears to have spent a considerable time in Moray as episcopal charters of his brother Bricius de Douglas show. He was in the retinue of the King Alexander II, at Selkirk, in 1238 when the title Earl of Lennox was regranted to Maol Domhnaich of Lennox. Douglas disappears from historical record after 1239 and it is presumed that he died about this time.

Marriage and issue

Archibald of Douglas is thought to have married Margaret, daughter of Sir John Crawford of Crawfordjohn and had issue:

  1. William of Douglas (c.1220–c.1274)
  2. Andrew Douglas of Hermiston, progenitor of the Lords of Dalkeith & Earls of Morton and Lords of Mains.

Extracted from Cawley's Medlands - SCOTLAND, EARLS CREATED 162-1398 v4.3 Updated 09 May 2022 Medlands - Chapter 6. Douglas retrieved 13 August 2024

WILLIAM [I] de Douglas (-after 6 Nov 1213). ... 1261)[498]. m [-, sister of Freskin [IV] of Cardell, daughter of --. William [I] & his wife had [seven] children:

1. ARCHIBALD de Douglas (-[1238/2 Mar 1239]). "Comes Malcolmus de Fyffe" confirmed "terram…de Levingstoun…et…de Hirmanstoun", which "idem Willelmus de me tenuit", to "Archebaldo de Douglas filio Willelmi de Douglas" by undated charter[501]. “...Willelmus de Duneglas, Archibaldus de Duneglas...” witnessed the charter dated 6 Nov 1213 which records an agreement between “Mauricium comitem de Manenthe et Mauricium juniorem fratrem eius” concerning the earldom of Menteith (inspeximus dated 20 Sep 1261)[502]. "Domino Bricio Moraviensi episcopo…Arkembaldo de Duseglas, Freskyno decano Moraviensis ecclesie, Andrea de Moravia, Alexandro, Henrico, Hugone…" witnessed the undated charter under which "Willelmus filius Willelmi Freskyny" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Artendol" to the church of Moray[503]. "Amelec frater Maldoveni comitis de Levenax" donated "ecclesiam de Rosneth" to Paisley monastery by undated charter, witnessed by "…Archebaldo de Dusglas…"[504]. “Comes Malcolmus de Fyffe” granted “terram meam de Levingstoun...et...terram meam de Hirmastoun...” to “Archebaldo de Douglas filio Willelmi de Douglas” by undated charter (dated to [1213/28]), witnessed by “Dauid fratre meo...”, confirmed by King Alexander II by charter dated 19 Apr [no year, dated by Innes to “before...1226”[505]][506]. "…Erkenbaldo de Duglas fratre quondam Bricii episcopi…" witnessed the charter dated 31 Oct 1226 which confirmed an agreement between the bishop of Moray and "Gylbertum Hostiarium" about "terra de Strathboc et…Buleske"[507]. "Henkelbaldo de Dugle..." witnessed the undated charter under which "David de Lyndd fili David de Lyndd" donated property to Newbattle[508]: Fraser dates this charter to “probably [1239]”[509]. Archibald presumably died before 2 Mar 1238 (O.S.?), the date of the charter cited below in which his successor William [II] is named “...domino Willielmo de Doneglass..”.

m -. The primary source which confirms that name of Archibald’s wife has not been identified. Fraser says that he “is said to have married Margaret, elder daughter of Sir John Crawford of Crawford-John”[510].

Two brothers. Fraser assumes that they were sons of Archibald Douglas who is named above (no primary sources cited)[531]. Cosmo Innes, in his preface to the Registrum Honoris de Morton, says that “Sir William of Douglas [shown below] was probably the son of Sir Archibald, but this step of the pedigree is not proved otherwise than by his inheriting the family lands” and that “it is hardly on better evidence that it is asserted that Andrew, the founder of the House of Dalkeith and Morton, was brother of this Sir William and consequently son of Sir Archibald”[532]. Nevertheless, the incomplete transcription of the [1245] charter cited below suggests that William (the date suggesting that he was the unnamed “domino---de---Duglas”) and Andrew were brothers. In addition, the [1213/28] charter cited above under Archibald (together with its 19 Apr “before 1226” confirmation) indicates his holding of “Levingstoun...et...Hirmastoun...”, Herdmanston being granted later by Andrew to his son William (see below). While these additional factors suggest that Archibald was their father, the possibility cannot be excluded that the two brothers were sons of a deceased brother of Archibald who designated them as his heir.


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Cropped from Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage (London, St. Catherine Press, 1916) Ed. 2 Vol IV, p. 432 < Archiive.Org >


References

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_I,_Lord_of_Douglas cites
    1. Registrum Honoris de Morton, ed. Thomson, MacDonald, Innes. Bannatyne Club, Edinburgh 1853.[1] Reg. Morton vol i p. xxxiii-iv < Archive.Org >
    2. Liber Sancte Marie de Melros: munimenta vetustiora Monasterii Cisterciensis de Melros, ed. Innes. Bannatyne Club, Edinburgh 1837. [2] Liber de Melros, voli, pp. 214–215
    3. Maxwell, Sir Herbert. A History of the House of Douglas. London 1902
    4. Balfour Paul, Sir James. The Scots Peerage IX Vols. Edinburgh 1907
    5. Fraser, Sir William. The Douglas Book IV Vols. Edinburgh 1885
  2. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#_f...
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I,_Lord_of_Douglas cites
    1. Liber S. Marie de Calchou, Registrum Cartarum Abbacie Tironensis de Kelso ii vols, ed. Innes. Bannatyne Club. Edinburgh 1846. p. 346. < Archive.Org >
    2. Balfour Paul, Sir James, Scots Peerage IX vols. Edinburgh 1907
    3. Fraser, Sir William. The Douglas Book IV Vols. Edinburgh 1885. vol I, p.37 < Archive.Org >; vol I, p. 43. < Archive.Org >
    4. Hume of Godscroft, David, A History of the House and Race of Douglas and Angus. London 1820 [2] pp. 4-6. < Archive.Org >
    5. Maxwell, Sir Herbert, A History of the House of Douglas II vols. London 1902 [3]. "The Flemish Settlers" page 5 - 12 < Archive.Org >. "The utmost that can be urged is a strong probability, supported by the Christian Names, that the houses of Moray and Douglas were derived from a common Flemish or Frisian stock." [But see comments on recent Y DNA testing.]
    6. Stirnet: Douglas01
  4. Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage (London, St. Catherine Press, 1916) Ed. 2 Vol IV, p. 432 < Archiive.Org >
  5. Sir James Balfour Paul, Editor, 1906, The Scots Peerage, founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Published by David Douglas, Edinburgh, Scotland>William de Douglas, Vol III, pps 132-5 < Archive.Org >
  6. Type: Web Site Author: Jim Weber Title: T bhe Phillips, Weber, Kirk & Staggs Famlies URL http:://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id (dead link) Date: Sep 19, 2010 Detail: Jim Weber cites numerous sources for his data. See his posting for details.
  7. Most of the information on Kings & Queens of Scotland, Irel and, Wales, England and other parts of the British Isle s & Europe and on the various Royal & Noble families in thi s family tree has come from one or more of the following so urces:BURKE'S Genealogical and Heraldic History of the PEER AGE BARONETAGE AND KNIGHTAGE. Edited by Peter Townend. Burke's Peerage Limited, London "Burke's Peerage" popular name.
  8. Also information from Burke's Landed Gentry Burke's Peerage Limited, London
  9. Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage, ISBN: 0312125577 Debrett's Peerage Ltd 86/88 Edgware Road London W2 2YW For further information on Debrett's e-mail people@debretts.co.uk Phone # +44 (0)171 916 9633. http://www.debretts.co.uk/index.html
  10. Directory of Royal Genealogical Data (Edinburgh Mirror) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~bct/public/genealogy/royal/ Version: 29 Jul 99 Author: Brian TompsettBack: Royal and No ble genealogy Copyright (c) 1994 - 1999This is part of Roya l and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/gedcom.html (dead link)
  11. Royal Genealogies -- Menu http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html Denis R. Reid 149 Kimrose Lane Broadview Heights, Ohio 44147-1258 Internet Email address: ah189@cleveland.freenet.edu (216) 237-5364
  12. Burke's possibly now published or distributed by Almanach De Gotha Ltd, 9 Cork Street,Mayfair, London, W1X 1PD United Kingdom. Tel (UK) 0181 404 2489 (International) +44(0) 181 404 2489 http://www.almanachdegotha.com/main_page.htm
  13. http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/williamdedouglas.htm
  14. Scot's peerage shows his mother being born 1175. He was born 1145.
  15. http://roots-boots.net/ft/l-dougls.txt
  16. http://www.montyhistnotes.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I442...
  17. http://www.wallacegreinerfamily.com/getperson.php?personID=I864&tre...
  18. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-108
    1. A comment at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-108 may explain how both the mother and wife show in older pedigrees as "de Moravia" (Moray). ... Freskin's known son William de Moravia, was founder of the Murrays of Bothwell , as well as the Earls' of Sutherland. This William, son of Freskin was contemporary with the above William 1st of Douglas, and therefore there were TWO different men named William signing documents during the same era, one designated as 'of Douglas, and the other as William son of Freskin. Which is evidence that Freskin did not have TWO sons named William who signed the same document as Witnesses, on the same day or during the same time-frame. Therefore William 1st of Douglas can not be the son of Freskin de Moravia accordingly. This evidence is reinforced via the YDNA evidence undertaken by a large number of Douglas men through Family Tree DNA. The YDNA does not match. ..." Source: May 2013- YDNA evidence found linking Sutherland of Moray Firth men with Douglas of Morton descendants- paper by Alexandrina Murray., Murray Clan DNA Research Project at Family Tree DNA . Published on University of St Andrews website for 2016 Flemish in Scotland Conference May 2016. Link to PDF of this paper can be provided.
  19. https://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I119...
  20. A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire, Volume 42, Part 1. Henry Colburn, 1880. < GoogleBooks >
  21. https://thepeerage.com/p10950.htm#i109495
  22. http://www.montyhistnotes.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I441...
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Archibald I, 2nd lord of Douglas's Timeline

1166
1166
Douglasdale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
1220
1220
Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
1225
1225
Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland
1240
July 18, 1240
Age 74
Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Scotland - aka Erkenbald
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