Alice unknown

Not the same as Alice Woodcock

Family

Children of Alice and Robert BANASTRE , of Newton & Walton are:

• i. James BANASTRE , of Newton & Walton was born ABT 1270 in Newton in Makerfield, Warrington, Cheshire, England, and died BEF 1291 in Walton le Dale, Preston, Lancashire, England (dvp). He married Ellen (Elena) le BOTELER, daughter of William le BOTELER , Lord of Bewsey, Sir and Dionysia de LOSTOCK. She was born ABT 1270 in Bewsey Hall, Warrington, Lancashire, England, and died AFT 1291.
• ii. Clemence BANASTRE , heir of Mollington was born ABT 1272 in Walton le Dale, Preston, Lancashire, England, and died 1298 in Little Mollington/Mollington Banastre, Cheshire, England. She married William de LEA, son of Henry de LEA & Charnock Richard and Elizabeth. He was born ABT 1244 in Lea Hall, Preston, Lancashire, England, and died APR 1302

Disputed Identity

From a footnote in The Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancester and Chester, "Chartulary of Cockersand Abbey of the Premonstratensian Order, Vol II Part I"

"Roger de Cuerden had issue a son and heir Simon, who was living in 1253, when he made a covenant with John Woodcock and Glibert, his brother, not to alienate the homage and service which they owed him, without their consent. The manor of Cuerden is said to have passed to the said Gilbert Woodcock, and through his daughter and heiress Alice, to her husband Sir Robert Banastre, Lord of Makerfield. [Baine's Hist. of Lanc.. edit. 1870, vol ii p.143]"

However

“22. Cur. Reg. R. 149, m. 11; Close, 37 & 38 Hen. III, 68, m. 9 d. The marriage to Alice daughter and heir of Gilbert Woodcock of Cuerden, alleged by Dr. Kuerden and repeated in V.C.H. Lancs. i, 372, must be disregarded.” ['Townships: Walton-le-Dale', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 6 (1911), pp. 289-300. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk]

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp289-300#highligh...

She must have been the first wife, because

• NOTE: The following, edited by William Farrer (author of the above) contains a correction to the above concerning Robert's wife: Manor of Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire: The descent of the Banastres and of their successors the Langtons having been given in the Feudal Baronage, it is only necessary to add here a few additional notes more immediately relating to Walton. In 1253 Robert Banastre brought proceedings in the King's Court against Peter de Burnhull for felling trees in Walton Wood, and in consequence a perambulation was ordered to fix the bounds between Walton and Brindle. (fn. 22) The abundance of wood in the northern and eastern parts of the township at this date indicates the aptness of the name 'weald tún.' Banastre obtained in 1257 a charter of free warren here, and in 1278 took action against four of the principal freeholders who had withdrawn their suit from Walton Mill, but they denied his title to the mill. He married in 1269 Alesia relict of Philip de Legh of co. Stafford and daughter of Robert de Grendon of Grendon and Shenstone in the same county, and by this union acquired some small interest in that county.

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