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About Alice FitzWalter
Primary Sourcing
Medlands: "English Lords D–K"
b) ALICE (-1213 or after). An order dated 21 Jul 1213 records that "Alic Pechie" gave "Aliciam filiam suam" as a hostage when "Roberti filii Walteri fratris sui" was freed[215]. m GILBERT Pecche, son of HAMON Pecche & his wife Alice Peverel (-before 9 Jul 1212).
Medlands: "English Lords P–S"
GILBERT Pecche, son of HAMO Pecche & his wife Alice Peverel (-before 9 Jul 1212). The Liber Memorandorum Ecclesie de Bernewelle names "Gilbertus Peche primus…secundus…Galfridus Pecche" as the sons of "Hamonis Peche senioris" and his wife[32]. A charter dated 28 May 1228, which records that "Hamo Pecche" requested land of "Gilbertus Pecche pater suus" from the abbot of Ramsey, and that "Hamo Pecche avus suus" had "duos filios…Gilbertum [%E2%80%A6post nato] et Galfridum", indicates that Gilbert was the younger son[33]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Gilbertus Peccatum" paying "ix l x s x d" in Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire and "feoda Gilberti Peccatum" paying "xl s, iv milites" in Norfolk, Suffolk[34]. "Gillb Peche" and Ramsey abbey are named in a lawsuit at Westminster in 1194[35]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Gilbertus Peche" paying "xix l xx d…[et] ii m et dimidiam de honore de Brunne" in Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire[36]. "Gilbt Pecche" paid a fine for "manerii de Chavel", dated 1199[37]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Gilbertus Peccatum" holding two knights’ fees in Kent, and four in Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire "in Ramptone, Herlestone, Madinglega, Lellewarthe, Cotenham et Baintone", together with 17 others in the same counties, in [1210/12][38].
m ALICE FitzWalter, daughter of WALTER FitzRobert Lord of Dunmow, Essex & his first wife Matilda de Lucy (-after 1213). An order dated 21 Jul 1213 records that "Alic Pechie" gave "Aliciam filiam suam" as a hostage when "Roberti filii Walteri fratris sui" was freed[39].
Gilbert & his wife had three children:
1. HAMO Pecche (-Palestine 1241, bur Barnwell)....
2. ALICE Pecche (-after 21 Jul 1213)....
3. MATILDA Pecche (-after 11 May 1226)....
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As of 7 Oct 2023, the person-files for Gilbert Peche and Alice FitzRobert do not source-qualify as secondary, tertiary, or quaternary. —
NOTE: Even in Geni curator profiles, using the Fitz + father's given name for daughters is nonsensical. Fitz = "son of."FamilyTree Maker (Data)
GILBERT3 PECCHE (HAMON2, GUILLAUME1) died 1212. He married ALICE FITZWALTER, daughter of Walter FitzRobert and Maud de Lucy.
Notes
Gilbert Pecche was the second son and heir of his brother Geoffrey. He was a knight of the Abbot of Bury and made a pilgrimage to the Holy Land before his brother's death. In 1199, he was fined for having his manor of Cheveley, for which he received a charter from King John confirming it, "as his ancestors had held it, of the gift of Roger FitzRichard", of the House of de Clare.
In 1196, he was involved in the dispute between Abbot Sampson and his tenants concerning their sevices. The dispute between the Abbots of Ramsey and the Pecches concerned whether they held Over in fee or each successively for life. King Henry I had decided the issue and King Henry II decided the issue again in 1186/87. Over in Cambridge had been granted by the Abbot of Ramsey to Guillaume Pecche and his wife Alfwen for life, not in fee.
Children of Gilbert Pecche and Alice FitzWalter are:
7. i. HAMON4 PECCHE, d. 1241.
ii. MAUD PECCHE, m. WILLIAM DE LANVELLI.
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Alice FITZWALTER. Parents: Walter FITZROBERT (Lord of Dunmow) and Maud DE LUCY (Lady of Dis).
Spouse: Gilbert PECCHE (Baron of Bourn). Gilbert PECCHE (Baron of Bourn) and Alice FITZWALTER were married. Children were: Hamon PECCHE.
Alice FitzWalter's Timeline
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1158
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Clopton, Suffolk, England (United Kingdom)
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January 1, 1191
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January 1, 1191
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Newmarket, Suffolk, England
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1213
Age 55
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Suffolk, England (United Kingdom)
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