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About Ada (the Elder) of Huntington
The estimated birth date for this profile has been change so as she does not show as born before her father. I think her father was born a slightly prior to 1152. (Ken Shelley, 20 Mar 2024)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Henrydied1152
[Earl David] m firstly ---. No direct evidence has been of this supposed first marriage of David. However, the date of David’s marriage to Matilda of Chester is late for this to have been his first marriage. In addition, his foundation charter for Lindores abbey refers to the donation of his daughter Ada, who was already married at the time and therefore considerably older than David’s children by his marriage to Matilda. Secondary sources generally assume that Ada was illegitimate. However, it is possibly that she was the daughter of an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of David, especially as she was given his mother’s name.
Earl David & his [first wife] had one child:
a) ADA. The undated charter, dated to before 1203 from the names of the subscribers, under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey refers to land "in villa de Neutile" donated by "Ada filia mea, uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth"[488]. As noted above, secondary sources mostly show Ada as David’s illegitimate daughter. The fact that she was given his mother’s name may indicate that she was legitimate, born from a possible first marriage. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[489]. "Ada filia comitis David uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth" donated land "in villa de Balemagh" to Lindores Abbey by undated charter[490]. m MALISE, son of FERTETH [Ferquhard] Earl of Strathearn & his wife Ethen --- ([after 1150]-).
Medlands (11 May 2024) Scotland, Moramaers, Earls, Lords
- ii) MALISE (after [1150]-after [1211]). "Gilbertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberruadeuien" to Inchaffray, for the souls of "pater meus Ferthet et mater mea Ethen", by charter dated to [1198], witnessed by "Malis fratre comitis, Gillecrist filio comitis…Dunecano filio Malisii, Maulde comitissa de Strathern…"[612]. "Gilebertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam de Madernin" to Inchaffray by charter dated to [1199], witnessed by "Malisio fratre meo, Mathilde comitissa, Willelmo et Ferthed et Roberto filiis meis…"[613]. A charter dated 1200 records the foundation of Inchaffray Abbey by "Gilbertus filius Ferthead…comes de Stradern et…Matilidis filia Willelmi de Aubengni comitissa", for the soul of "Gillecrist primogeniti nostri ibidem quiescentis", the dating clause of which refers to "ad obitu prenominati filii nostri Gillecrist anno secundo, obiit autem III Non Oct", witnessed by "…Robertus de Quinci, Seierus de Quinci, Malisius frater comitis, Willelmus, Ferthead et Robertus filii comitis…Dunecanus filius Malisii…"[614]. "…M. comitissa de Stratherr, Malisio fratre comitis, Ferthet filio comitis, Matilda filia comitis…Dunecano filio Malihs…" subscribed the charter dated to [1200] under which "Gilbertus comes de Stratheren" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[615]. "…Malisio fratre comitis, Matilda comissa…Willelmo, Fertet, Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gillecrist filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated to [1203/08] under which "Gilebertus comes de Stradhern" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[616]. "…Malisio filio comitis Fertheth, W. Olifart…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scocie" donated "Culsamuel et…Munkegyn" to Lindores Abbey[617]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[618]. "…M. fratre meo, M. comitissa, Roberto filio et herede meo et aliis filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated 1210 under which "G. comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Beani de Foulis" to Inchaffray Abbey[619]. "G. comite, Malisio fratre eius, Roberto filio comitis, Fergus fratre eius…" subscribed the charter dated to [1211] under which confirms the donation by "G. comitis de Strathern" of "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberrotheuin" to Inchaffray Abbey[620].
- m ADA, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his [first wife ---]. The undated charter, dated to before 1203 from the names of the subscribers, under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey refers to land "in villa de Neutile" donated by "Ada filia mea, uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth"[621]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[622]. "Ada filia comitis David uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth" donated land "in villa de Balemagh" to Lindores Abbey by undated charter[623].
- Malise & his wife had [two] children (there is no direct proof that the father of these two children was the brother of Earl Gilbert, but the proximity of their names in the charter subscriptions quoted below suggests that this might be the case):
- (a) [DUNCAN (-after 1223). "Gilbertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberruadeuien" to Inchaffray, for the souls of "pater meus Ferthet et mater mea Ethen", by charter dated to [1198], witnessed by "Malis fratre comitis, Gillecrist filio comitis…Dunecano filio Malisii, Maulde comitissa de Strathern…"[624]. A charter dated 1200 records the foundation of Inchaffray Abbey by "Gilbertus filius Ferthead…comes de Stradern et…Matilidis filia Willelmi de Aubengni comitissa", for the soul of "Gillecrist primogeniti nostri ibidem quiescentis", the dating clause of which refers to "ad obitu prenominati filii nostri Gillecrist anno secundo, obiit autem III Non Oct", witnessed by "…Robertus de Quinci, Seierus de Quinci, Malisius frater comitis, Willelmus, Ferthead et Robertus filii comitis…Dunecanus filius Malisii…"[625]. "…M. comitissa de Stratherr, Malisio fratre comitis, Ferthet filio comitis, Matilda filia comitis…Dunecano filio Malihs…" subscribed the charter dated to [1200] under which "Gilbertus comes de Stratheren" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[626]. "…Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto filiis meis…Doncano filio Malisi…" subscribed the charter dated 1218 under which confirms the donation by "Gillebertus comes de Strathern" donated "Maresii" to Inchaffray Abbey[627]. "…Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto filiis meis…Donecano et Gillethoma filiis Malisii…" subscribed the charter dated 1219 under which "Gillebertus comes de Stratheren" donated numerous properties to Inchaffray Abbey[628]. "Robertus filius Gilleberti comitis" confirmed donations of numerous churches to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], subscribed by "…Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto fratribus meis…Dunecano et Gilletoma filiis Malisii…"[629]. "Robertus comes de Stratheren" confirmed possessions of Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1223/24], witnessed by "…Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto fratribus meis…Donecano et Gillethoma filiis Malisii"[630].]
- (b) [GILLETHOMA (-after 1223). "…Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto filiis meis…Donecano et Gillethoma filiis Malisii…" subscribed the charter dated 1219 under which "Gillebertus comes de Stratheren" donated numerous properties to Inchaffray Abbey[631]. "Robertus filius Gilleberti comitis" confirmed donations of numerous churches to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], subscribed by "…Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto fratribus meis…Dunecano et Gilletoma filiis Malisii…"[632]. "Robertus comes de Stratheren" confirmed possessions of Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1223/24], witnessed by "…Fergus, Malisio, Gilleberto fratribus meis…Donecano et Gillethoma filiis Malisii"[633].]