Austrian and German Nobility/Aristocracy and Naming Conventions

Randy - beyond the obvious errors you pointed out, I have noticed that the actual Germany relatives of mine using the titles today are not too swift with the distinctions either - women born baronesses using Frauherr, for example, instead of Freiin.

I thought this issue was being taken care of once the "alternative name fields" will be available, so that the names can be inserted in all it's many permutations to allow for easy "search" by all users?

The "nickname" field has been renamed "Also Known As" and moved to the "Basics" tab. The separator is the comma (,). In addition the "Display Name" field can be used.

So yes, I believe Austrian and German names can follow the conventions used on the Wiki:

http://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Naming_Conventions

And a section for German names could be inserted.

Ofir Friedman
you are Curating this part of the tree what is your opinion?

By the way Randy I agree

I am entering someone known perhaps commonly as "Freiderich Max Frieherr von Krefeld". Am I correctly interpreting the naming conventions as follows?

Firstname: Freiderich
Middle Name: Max
Surname: von Krefeld
Suffix:

Suffix: Freiherr
Such that it would read:
"Freiderich Max von Krefeld, Freiherr" ?

Adam

Adam, in my opinion your example should be as followed

Firstname: Freiderich
Middle Name: Max
Surname: von Krefeld
Suffix: none

in the display name you can write
Freiderich Max, Frieherr von Krefeld
or

Frieherr Freiderich Max von Krefeld

or another way can be

Firstname: Freiderich
Middle Name: Max
Surname: von Krefeld
Suffix: Frieherr von Krefeld

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiherr

in my opinion Frieherr is not part of the last name /surname

last line should read
"in my opinion Frieherr is not part of the last name /surname field"

Randy, though intended for Medieval Europe, this project details some good guidelines for European Royalty, very much in line with Ofri's suggestions:
http://www.geni.com/projects/Medieval-Kingdoms-of-Western-Europe

cool.fighting.....

My proposal is for Frieherr, Dr., Sir etc - that we need Prefix field also!!!
Until we will wait it, we can use [Freiherr] in fist-name field just before the first name etc.

Lauri Kreen. putting titles in the first name filed is exactly the opposite of what we promote.

frieherr on suffiksi

Private User
Can be so, but then it is reasonable to request and have the Prefix field.

And until then, we tell people to put prefixes in the display name.

DIsplay name has its limitations, specifically Geni makes it possible to have a tree preference that shows the actual name, and hence this important information, such as Frieherr, Rabbi, General, etc is not visibile. Similarly, entering titles in the display name requires a second entry as it cannot be done in a persons initial setup through the tree. I have been trying out the "suffix" solution to adding inherited and honorary titles this week and have been very happy with it, particularly as it does not appear to cause any false hits with search or matching.