Malcolm III, 'Canmore', King of Scots - Cawley & Crew (22 Jan 2024) Uncertain and 1st Wife

Malcolm III, 'Canmore', King of Scots is your 27th great grandfather.

Yes, I know some people are set in their ways. Getting angry replied to change isn't wanted. However, in light of the plausible rationale by Cawley, perhaps the Scandinavians wouldn't be upset if a person-profile was created and linked to Malcolm.
NN probable 1st wife or mistress of Malcolm III

Wikitree (2024) still shows Ingilbjörg as the mother. Only at the bottom of the profile do we find this:

“There is much uncertainty about the nature of Malcolm's relationship with Ingibjörg, stemming from the fact that it is only mentioned in the Orkneyinga Saga and not in a single Scottish or English source. This is highly unusual, and has led some historians to speculate that Ingibjörg may have been a concubine rather than a wife. The dates of her first husband's probable death and the birthdates of the sons she had with Malcolm are also difficult to reconcile and have led to questions about their eldest son's legitimacy. Charles Cawley discusses these discrepancies in more detail here: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093A”ht...

To keep Scandinavian lovers-of-tradition hawks at bay, the children wouldn’t have to be attached to the new person-profile as children. Instead, for the Overviews for both the new profile and Ingibjörg Finnsdóttir, I suggest putting Wikitree’s statement at the top—allowing reasoned academic integrity—and then lock the profile Overviews for both so the statement remains at the top of the overview.

Why my suggestion? Geni subscribers (like me) who also keep separate trees on Ancestry, MyHearitage, etc. can decide what they want to believe.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dunkeld-77#Research_Notes

Or instead of inputting Wikitree's statement, a shorter one could be thus:

Cawley and his collaborators reason (2024) that "the identity of the mother of King Malcolm's sons Duncan and Donald is uncertain." For details, please review Medlands [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#_ftnref321 "Scotland, Kings"] about Malcolm' first wife.

The main issue I see here is we're not quite certain when Thorfinn or Ingibjörg died. Or when either Duncan or Donald were born. If we knew the exact dates, it would help a great deal.

For example, Ingibjörg theoretically have died giving birth to Duncan, who could have been born before his father was King. Agree they may have never been married, but she may have been his wife and also not technically Queen. He was King from 17 March 1058. That doesn't seem too far off from Duncan's estimated birth date OR the estimated possible death of Thorfinn as 1060 shown here on Geni (allowing he also may have died a few years later). I have no explanation for Donald, however if going with this possibility, unless he was closer in age to his brother?

Hopefully this makes some sense. I'm exhausted from traveling. I do not have personal skin in the game as I have paths to both left as is or if you disconnect. I do think it makes sense to look at it more closely than Medlands vs the Saga since Medlands is also not certain, and will see if I can find anything to help support either.

Sourcing doesn't exist to prove the mother of Donald and Duncan.
Conversely, the sourcing that does exist creates for us unanswerable questions.
In my personal tree, I've assigned the two sons to a unknown mother.
I don't think Geni should detach them from Ingibjörg Finnsdótti; there's no source proving she wasn't their mother.
I do refer to my previous suggestion(s) as academically instructive.

I found something interesting. A PhD thesis which references the Dunfermline Compilation mention of Duncan, recorded as "nothus." Nothus means illegitimate.

I'm not able to find online access to the Dunfermline Compilation itself yet, but perhaps someone else can?

No, it doesn't, but I was wondering if there is anything else which might be useful or interesting? Are you able to access directly Erica?

I think it does help move the needle a bit towards his parents not being legally married when he was born.

Sorry, still jetlaggy...I mean the Dunfermline Compilation.

There seems to have been a peculiar communication gap between Scottish and Orkney sources all through this period - Macbeth isn't mentioned in any Orkney sources either (bar possibly the muddled references to a "Karl Hundason").

Thorfinn we know was out of the picture sometime before 1066 (Harald Hardraada encountered no significant opposition in staging through the Orkneys and taking the boy-Earls Paul and Erlend as allies/hostages). That there is no reference in either set of sources to his taking either/any side in the events of 1057 is perhaps also significant....