Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons is (NOT) my 32nd great grandfather!

I received an email about both you discussions you started. I assume because it's showing both Grandparent, through same line. I'm working on the will part, but haven't found it. I did tagg profile with Historical Society information. I haven't looked at what else is the issues to both conversations you started but the link below seems like a starting point.

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+Rhodri-the-G...

Gateway

Elizabeth 'Katherine' Pugh

Conversation tagged and copied from original. Not sure if it was seen.

https://fortvance.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Owings_Captain_Ric...

Capt. Richard Owings

Anne Brannen

I saw you Curated the profile for Richard Owings. This seems like a false line for me. I found this information at the Historical Society. I'm working on the parents for the request above for the will. I believe that is false line as his Ruth is accounted for. Hope the three links help.

Capt. Richard Owings

Hi Erica,

Where is the line incorrect?

Maternal path to Elizabeth Mallory: Elizabeth Mallory is your 7th cousin 13 times removed.
You → Karen Margaret Anderson (your mother) → Carrie Pearl Cashin (her mother) → Arthur Cashin (her father) → Kathryn Dexter Cashin (his mother) → Eunice F Smith (her mother) → Joshua Gross (her father) → Joseph Gross, Jr. (his father) → Joseph Gross, I (his father) → Abigail Gross (his mother) → Mary Treat (her mother) → Mary Larkin (Walker) (her mother) → Hannah Crowfoot (her mother) → Thomas Merrick (her father) → Rev. John Merrick (his father) → Janet verch Ieuan (his mother) → Ieuan ap John (her father) → John ab Ieuan (his father) → Ieuan ap Llewelyn, of Trefeilir (his father) → Mallt verch Cwnws (his mother) → Mallt ferch Gruffudd (her mother) → Angharad ferch Gruffudd (her sister) → Mallt verch Rhys (her daughter) → Margred verch Hywel y Farf (her daughter) → John ap Gruffudd (her son) → Gruffudd ap John (his son) → Catrin ferch Gruffudd (his daughter) → Richard Vaughan, Bishop of London (her son) → Elizabeth Mallory (his daughter)

My father's mother to Elizabeth Mallory: Elizabeth Mallory is Clara Amelia Anderson's 9th cousin 9 times removed.
Clara Amelia Anderson → Horace Clark Mitchell (her father) → Amelia Tryphena Piper (Mitchell) (his mother) → Isaac Milton Dodge, IV (her father) → Isaac Dodge, III (his father) → Sarah Dodge (his mother) → Samuel Utley, III (her father) → Samuel Utlie Utley, II (his father) → Hannah Utley (his mother) → Thomas Hatch, Sr. (her father) → Ann Hatch (his mother) → John Tilden (her father) → Richard Tilden, of Tenterden (his father) → Joan Tylden (his mother) → Percival Legh, of Lyme (her father) → Piers Legh, III (his father) → Joan Molyneux (his mother) → Sir Gilbert de Haydock IV (her father) → Joanna de Dutton (his mother) → Sir Edward Dutton (her brother) → Peter Dutton, 12th Lord of Dutton (his son) → Elizabeth Dutton, of Dutton (his daughter) → Sir John Done, of Utkinton (her son) → Elizabeth Done, of Utkinton (his daughter) → Elizabeth Salisbury (her daughter) → Lowry Conway (her daughter) → Thomas ap Robert Fychan (her son) → Richard Vaughan, Bishop of London (his son) → Elizabeth Mall

Agree about the N.N. Thomas--those always give me pause.

I have a N.N. on this path to Rhodri, however it is so far back in time, there seems more of an explanation tor it. This is my father's mother, again:

Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons is Clara Amelia Anderson's 31st great grandfather.
Clara Amelia Anderson → Horace Clark Mitchell (her father) → Amelia Tryphena Piper (Mitchell) (his mother) → Isaac Milton Dodge, IV (her father) → Lydia Dodge (his mother) → Ruth Frink (her mother) → Ruth Hibbard (her mother) → Ruth Wheelock (her mother) → Deacon Christopher Huntington, II (her father) → Christopher Huntington (his father) → Margaret Huntington (his mother) → Christopher Baret (her father) → William Barrett, of Westhall (his father) → Sir William Gregory Barrett, Sr. (his father) → Sir Lord John Barrett (his father) → Lord Gregory FitzJohn de Barrett IV (his father) → Lady Elizabeth Barrett (his mother) → Margaret de Vere de Naunton - Drury (her mother) → Thomas de Vere De Naunton (her father) → Ellen De Vere (his mother) → Margaret Mortimer (her mother) → Roger Mortimer, 1st Baron Mortimer (her father) → Gwladys Ddu verch Llewelyn (his mother) → Llewelyn "The Great" ap Iorwerth, King of Gwynedd, Prince of Wales (her father) → Margred verch Madog, of Powys (his mother) → Madog ap Maredudd, Brenin Powys (her father) → Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Brenin Powys (his father) → Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, Brenin Powys (his father) → Angharad verch Maredudd (his mother) → Maredudd ab Owain, King of Deheubarth (her father) → Angharad verch Llewelyn (his mother) → N.N. ferch Merfyn (her mother) → Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr (her father) → Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons (his father)

My closest path, if this is useful:

Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons is your 32nd great grandfather.
You → Karen Margaret Anderson (your mother) → Carrie Pearl Cashin (her mother) → Arthur Cashin (her father) → Kathryn Dexter Cashin (his mother) → Eunice F Smith (her mother) → Joshua Gross (her father) → Joseph Gross, Jr. (his father) → Joseph Gross, I (his father) → Abigail Gross (his mother) → Mary Treat (her mother) → Mary Larkin (Walker) (her mother) → Hannah Crowfoot (her mother) → Thomas Merrick (her father) → Rev. John Merrick (his father) → Syr William Meyrick (his father) → Rev. John Meyrick (his father) → Margaret verch Rowland (his mother) → Annes ferch Dafydd Salop (her mother) → Dafydd Salop ap Gruffudd (her father) → Gruffudd ap Iorwerth Ddu (his father) → Iowerth Ddu ap Madog (his father) → Madog ap Maredudd (his father) → Maredudd ap Madog (his father) → Madog ap Gruffydd Maelor, Lord Bromfield (his father) → Gruffudd Maelor ap Madog, Lord of Bromfield (his father) → Madog ap Maredudd, Brenin Powys (his father) → Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Brenin Powys (his father) → Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, Brenin Powys (his father) → Angharad verch Maredudd (his mother) → Maredudd ab Owain, King of Deheubarth (her father) → Angharad verch Llewelyn (his mother) → N.N. ferch Merfyn (her mother) → Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr (her father) → Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons (his father)

(I only have convoluted inlaw stuff with Owings)

You are connected to Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons.
Shortest blood relationship
Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons is your 33rd great grandfather.
You → Jannice Marie Muller (your mother) → Bernice Mildred Süsz (Müller) (her mother) → Magola Compton (her mother) → Roena Frances Wilson (her mother) → Lucy Ann Cooper (her mother) → Solomon Weddle, Sr. (her father) → Mary (Polly) Weddle (his mother) → Spencer McDaniel (her father) → Capt. William McDaniel, Sr. (his father) → John McDaniel, Sr. (his father) → John McDonnell, Sr. (his father) → Sir Daniel MacDonnell (his father) → Mary Penelope O'Brien, of Duagh (his mother) → Ellen Fitzgerald (her mother) → Honora MacCarthy Reagh (her mother) → Owen MacCarthy Reagh, 12th Prince of Carbery (her father) → Donal MacCarthy Reagh, 9th Prince of Carbery (his father) → Catherine Fitzgerald (his mother) → Ellice de Barry, Countess of Desmond (her mother) → William de Barry, 8th Lord Barry (her father) → John Barry, 7th Baron Barry (his father) → Margaret De Courcy (his mother) → Joan de Cogan (her mother) → Richard de Cogan (her father) → Milo (Miles) de Cogan (his father) → Gwladys FitzGerald (his mother) → Nest verch Rhys (her mother) → Gwladys verch Rhiwallon, Queen of Deheubarth (her mother) → Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn, Prince of Powys (her father) → Angharad verch Maredudd (his mother) → Maredudd ab Owain, King of Deheubarth (her father) → Angharad verch Llewelyn (his mother) → N.N. ferch Merfyn (her mother) → Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr (her father) → Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons (his father)
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Shortest in-law relationship
Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons is your 24th great uncle's 7th great grandfather.
You → Jannice Marie Muller (your mother) → Bernice Mildred Süsz (Müller) (her mother) → Magola Compton (her mother) → Roena Frances Wilson (her mother) → Lucy Ann Cooper (her mother) → Solomon Weddle, Sr. (her father) → Mary (Polly) Weddle (his mother) → Spencer McDaniel (her father) → Capt. William McDaniel, Sr. (his father) → John McDaniel, Sr. (his father) → Rebecca Brooke McDonnell (his mother) → Roger Williams (her father) → Sydrach Williams (his father) → James Williams (his father) → Mark Williams (his father) → James Williams (his father) → Walter Williams (his father) → Morgan Williams (his father) → William ap Ieuan, of Whitchurch (his father) → Margred Kemeys, of Bagam (his mother) → Jenkin Kemeys, of Began (her father) → Mawd verch Rhun (his mother) → Rhun ap Seisyll (her father) → Seisyll ap Rhun Fychan (his father) → N.N. verch Hywel (his mother) → Joyce verch Hywel (her sister) → Iorwerth ab Owain Wan, prince in Wales, lord of Caerleon (her husband) → Owain Wan ap Caradog, Lord of Caerleon (his father) → Gwenllian verch Bleddyn (his mother) → Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, Brenin Powys (her father) → Angharad verch Maredudd (his mother) → N.N. ferch Elise (her mother) → Elise ab Idwal Foel (her father) → Idwal Foel ab Anarawd (his father) → Anarawd ap Rhodri Mawr (his father) → Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons (his father)