Sir George Bruce of Carnock - WHO IS SIR GEORGE BRUCE OF CARNOCK

Is this Your one of Your grandfathers? Robert I the Bruce, King of Scots

Dear Philip,

I first made a contribution to this profile 10 April 2020 when I merged a profile for George Bruce with one for Sir George Bruce.

On 11 April 2023 I change the parents of Sir George Bruce of Carnock from Robert Bruce of Easter Kennet and Margaret Hamilton to Sir Edward Bruce of Blairhall and Alison Reid. This change was supported by published record evidence and by the account of the family published by the Scots Peerage.

If I understood your last message, I think that you believe that there may be a second George Bruce. Is this correct?

Sincerely,

Neil

Dear Niel
Yes Niel, let me explain something to you about how I've stumbled upon George Bruce. Firstly in our family oral past down in our family we are the direct descendant's of Robert The Bruce and I'm extremely proud and honoured of this. Peter Bruce my 5th great grand father migrated from Scotland to Australia to build the railway system, unfortunately he was assassinated outside the Railway station and Robert Bruce his son migrated to Australia to continue the business, which was steel. My 4th Great-grandfather Charles Brownhill Bruce and his brother David Bruce migrated to South Africa to run the business here. If you would like I have confirmed cousin's in Australia who I only quiet resently got in touch for the first time and they have better information about the happenings in Australia.
I've done my dna on FTDNA , big y and my third cousin also had his dna done in Australia and our dna is the same and he is also a male Bruce.
So I had never had contact with the family in Australia and as my dad died when I was seven I didn't know the family in Australia. They have the same oral history and I had a look at my cousin Scott's tree on Ancestry and it was the same as mine. On Ancestry they give the tree as I'm trying to put down on geni, on find my past when entering my details it runs to Robert the Bruce, the same as they give it on Ancestry, on family Search same thing. I can't claim anything as this is what the genealogical sites are giving. So on Ancestry they give for parents of James Bruce b. 1570 Dysart as George Bruce b. 1551-1625 and Margaret Primrose Blacklock and then they give Robert Bruce b. 1532- 1617 and Margaret Hamilton. So I loaded my dna to Mytrueancestry and the site went ballistic, I've looked at other peoples results and I can honestly say I've haven't seen anything like what my results are showing, maybe there is a way that I can show you?
On the dna side of things I carry the df96 snp which is under Z381 snp which is the royal snp of the kings cluster, they did the dn of the Boudons who are df98 the brother of df96, it takes the southern rout, while the df96 takes the northern route. Have many matches with archeological cites in the northern parts and also Iceland. I can't claim anything, thats your job Niel to see if things are aligned and thank you for all your hard work and time.

Sincerely Philip

Sorry Charles 3rd grandfather.

Thank you Erica, means a lot to me :)
Will get my Cousin to share all the information with Niel, he has the skills and has all the records. If you are interested I've run the ancestry of the Bruce family to 3400 BC all the way back to South Sudan and then there is another 30 odd descendants that they have stuffed up the chronological order while excavating!, you probable know this?
Sorry really enjoy ancient history, sister says I live in the astrosphere :)
Just let me know what the geni team needs and ill do my best. Interestingly my dad went to a gedcom event in England, where he showed that we are the Bruce's, this gedcom event was in 1960, have his travel docs if needed to work out the date, he then went to Scotland and then came back to South Africa. He bought back a painting of one of our descendents a elder lady sitting and along the side was the full lineage of the Bruce family up to Robert the Bruce writen in gold. Chat later Erica, got to get some sleep in and then look for something for Niel that I think he will be very interested in, that may sort out our dilemma.

Kindest regards Philip

Currently it looks like Robert I the Bruce, King of Scots is my 20th great grandfather.