Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom

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I did my mtdna (Famous-gene) test with IGENEA, a laboratory in Switzerland. They claim that in maternal line I am related to Napoleon I, Maria Theresa of Austria, Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom, Sweyn II of Denmark etc. Instead Mytrueancestry when I asked them if they really have the DNA samples and where they get them they answered me from university databases and public DNA databases.

@Maryna Zhubryk - If you tested your maternal line only and are H , as i am H7a and FTDNA says I share a common to Queen Victoria , this is just that a "SHARED COMMON", I am not familair with site IGENEA, but My True Ancestry , very much familar with and they don't have archelogical samples of being released within their site by maternal line nor Paternal YDNA tests given out to match to members yet. You are misinterpreting this by the type of test taken and matches or matched at a site here. Since My True ancestry only uses autosomal archeological burial sample matching , and data base samples from Universities yes, but they have not given samples as to ones you mentioned here and I have been with that site since they first started. Keep in mind what test and site matching your viewing and by how , if your an H MTDNA yes , you could show by maternal line shared common , as if full sequenced test you took and if you upload per site to gain same results is shared common . Yet , My true
ancestry site is only uploaded autosomal raw files , so matching is by autosomal only. Which is different by gaining many cousin matching , as MTA site only has samples of what they released and they don't tell members in a seperate conversation who they are related too. You would not even have to ask them since at the site they have Q&A list and you gave an answer they give to all members . Why don't you check on here this site by having your DNA uploaded ? You will get a answer by seeing the matches to determine your questioning here , seems easy enough. Did you upload your autosomal and mtdna test you can upload also here at geni?

Kathleen Hawk (Burress/ Stever/McClish)

Good morning Kathleen, thanks for replying. We are related by marriage.
I uploaded autosomal and mtdna on Geni.com.
Many of my matches have blood relationship with Queen Victoria of England and with other members of Royal Houses.
Mytrueancestry instead shows me that I am also connected to Izjaslav Ingvarevich of the Rurikid dynasty and also shows me the chromosomes on which we match.
Family Tree DNA says I am fourth cousin of a Scottish gentleman of Stuart descent. I have a lot of FTDNA matches with English, Irish, Scottish etc, even though I'm Ukrainian.
Gedmatch says that among my matches there are people who are also descended from the Stuarts (Wolf of Badenoch).
And lately I've learned that my maternal great-grandmother came from a titled family, but that's yet to be confirmed.
My haplogroup is H1e1a.
By adding up all the things I have listed above it cannot be ruled out that I may be related to the Royals I have mentioned in my previous discussions.
My best wishes.

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Good morning Bjorn, I know. But the laboratory where I took the test says that in the maternal line I am related to Napoleon Bonaparte, Queen Victoria of United Kingdom, Maria Theresa of Austria and other people. I do not mention them here because they are alive. And I don't know if I can mention them. I just did the mtdna test. And the result was a big surprise for me.

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I have asked with this company to demonstrate how I am connected to the people I mentioned above. They told me it is impossible to know.

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The IGENEA website tells me exactly this: by comparing your DNA with our database, we found the relationship on the maternal line with the following profiles...and then it lists all the people I mentioned in this discussion.

And anyway I wrote another email this morning to ask for proof.

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https://www.geni.com/path/Queen-Victoria-of-the-United-Kingdom-and-...

This is not what her DNA is about, it does not cross different families in all that way or affect it by different marriages between other relatives. the only ones genetically affected are the offspring at each break point between the family joint.

To make it easier demonstrated by less families,
https://www.geni.com/path/Ulf-Martinsson+is+related+to+Queen-Victor...

The one affected by DNA
Märtha Hurtig

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I share a percentage of DNA with Märta Hurtig, checked via Gedmatch

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I share a percentage of DNA with Märta Hurtig, checked via Gedmatch.

Is it possible to build my tree based on this information?

One day perhaps it will be possible to actually build a missing part of the tree only from DNA information, already today we can puzzle togheter some individs with the help of how close they are related, but we have a lottery effect that we have to go around, understand more about, two whole sibblings can be more distant related by DNA to eachother then with a stranger. Straight line on mothers and fathers line is probaly more reliable to find, then others. Likely, there will be a lot of missing people between two related, say they share a common ancestor in 1600, on one side thay can track the fathers line to 1700, on the other to 1800, one will have at least 3 missning generations, the other one at least 6 dito. They could in Geni be conneted via N.N. profiles, if allowed, 100% real, but also a guess when it comes to how many they actually exactly were.

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Thank you for answering me.
I understood that it is a difficult thing to build a tree through DNA, almost impossible. Then I continue to build my tree in the classic way, looking for information through my relatives, in the Archives, etc.

Björn, exactly what I demonstrated, do you try to misunderstand me, I tried to simplify your own post and gave one easy example, the ones affected by DNA related to Queen Victoria and added two Geni links, extremly easy to see and understand. I have no dificulties understanding what inheriting DNA means.

This is the answer from IGENEA :
" Dear Mrs. Zhubryk,
the list shows people with the same haplogroup.You can find the exact profile and mutations for some of them (as long as the exact results are known) when you click at the name.
As mentioned before, we do not distinguish between close and far related relatives at the moment. "
The problem is, I don't understand anything about mutations. I posted them on my Geni profile. Maybe there is a person who understands it and could explain the meaning to me. Thank you with all my heart.

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I feel demoralized and frustrated. I paid for the test, I waited for months and they can't confirm my relationship with the people I've mentioned in this discussion, even though they claim that it is.

Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom and Empress of India is your 11th cousin five times removed.
Märtha Hurtig is your 15th cousin once removed.

1.Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom and Empress of India is my 8th cousin four times removed.
2.Märtha Hurtig is my 9th cousin once removed.
You
→ Elza Dzelvite (Grahpe,Grāpe)
your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Gustav Georg von Völckersahm
her father → Sophia Elisabeth von Mengden
his mother → Freiherr Magnus Gustav von Mengden, auf Altenwoga
her father → Barbara Finck von Finckenstein
his mother → Juliane Charlotte Gräfin Finck von Finckenstein
her sister → Graf Albrecht Christoph Finck von Finckenstein
her son → Katharina Dorothea Elisabeth Dorotea Finck von Finckenstein, Gräfin zu Schlieben
his daughter → Graf Karl Leopold von Schlieben-Sanditten
her son → Friederike Amelie zu Dohna-Schlobitten-Leistenau, Herzogin zu Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck
his daughter → Friedrich Wilhelm, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg
her son → Friedrich von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck, Herzog zu Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg
his son → Fredrich Ferdinand Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg
his son → Princess Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein
his daughter → Hereditary Prince Johann Leopold of Sachsen-Coburg and Gotha
her son → Märtha Hurtig
his daughter

Queen victoria and me share 4th generation ancestors.