Elizabeth Holland - Is she a fake?

Started by Erica Howton on Monday, November 14, 2022
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From An Historical Survey of the County of Cornwall: To which ..., Volume 2, Part 1  By Charles Sandoe Gilbert

Oliver Carminowe, a person of great note in the time of Richard I], to whom, he had the honor of being lord-chamberlain. He died, (apparently very aged) in 1345, and was buried (together with Elizabeth, his lady, sister of John Holland, duke of Exeter,) in the church of the Grey Friars, at Bodmin, where they were for some time represented in efligy, she with a coronet, and he with his legs across.

But - there was no Duke of Exeter until https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holland,_1st_Duke_of_Exeter b 1352, 25 or so years after this Elizabeth died.

Did the antiquarians bite a big one?

Should we merge her into the real wife, Elizabeth de Pomeroy

“Oliver Carminow married before 1314 to Elizabeth Holland. Daughter of Thomas de Holland & Joan Plantagenet. (this marriage is not noted in the Visitations of Cornwall)”

This seems impossible. Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent Was born 1314 and could not have arranged a daughter’s marriage before he was born.

I’m going to eliminate the profile currently

Elizabeth Holland
Gender: Female
Birth: 1295
Upholland, Lancashire, England
Death: 1328 (32-34)
Bodmin, Cornwall, England

By merging her into Elizabeth de Pomeroy.

If for any reason the profile needs to be resurrected, she can be extracted by “undo merge” for date 14 November 2022.

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