Cynric, king of Wessex - Parents

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Sunday, August 28, 2022
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The Peerage has a different father connected, with citations:

Cynric, King of Wessex was born circa 495.2 He was the son of Cerdic, King of Wessex.1 He died circa 560.1
He succeeded as the King Cynric of Wessex in 534.1
Children of Cynric, King of Wessex
Ceawlin, King of Wessex+1 b. c 535, d. 593
Cutha, King of Wessex+ b. c 540, d. 584
Citations
[S38] John Morby, Dynasties of the World: a chronological and genealogical handbook (Oxford, Oxfordshire, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1989), page 66. Hereinafter cited as Dynasties of the World.
[S2299] John Warburg, "re: Kings of Scotland," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 28 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "re: Kings of Scotland."

http://www.thepeerage.com/p10264.htm#i102634

So what I'm seeing here on Geni is that the man on The Peerage site is connected here as Cynric's grandfather instead of his father. The Peerage has Crioda who is connected as his father showing as his brother, both being sons of Cerdic.

The Peerage has different dates for Cynric:

Children of Cerdic, King of Wessex
Creoda (?)4 b. c 493, d. 534
Cynric, King of Wessex+1 b. c 495, d. c 560

whereas Geni has Cynric born 525.

Notes in Cynric's profile state:

"Whether or not Creola was father of Cynric is not certain. The Winchester Manuscript of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle lists Cynric as the son of Cerdic. However the Abingdon and Worcester Manuscripts have Creola as the son of Cerdic and father of Cynric"

So, all that said, which way seems to be the best documented for these connections? I'm leaning with the notes in the profile being bolstered by the info on The Peerage stie.

Any feedback, etc. appreciated. Thanks.

the anglo saxon chronicle gives both versions his son and his grandson, there is no way to prove either way

Oh my. Well, it is what it is then, at least it's all the same family. I guess everyone has to decide for themselves which version to put into any private tree they might have.

Hi Debbie,
I have not personally done any research on Cynric but this sounds like an issue to raise with the medieval moderators as it potentially affects many listings. I believe that GENi can allow multiple parents
Best,
Shel

Cynric, king of Wessex is my 40th great grandfather.
You
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your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Gustav Georg von Völckersahm
her father → Sophia Elisabeth von Mengden
his mother → ObtLt., Frhr Magnus Gustav von Mengden, von Altenwoga
her father → Gustav v. Mengden Frhr. v. Altenwoga
his father → Gertrud von Mengden Frfr. von Altenwoga
his mother → Jürgen von Rosen
her father → Kersten von Rosen
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his father → Jürgen l von Rosen
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his mother → Bartholomeus von Tiesenhausen, of Kokenhausen
her father → Johann von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hans von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hildegunde Buxhövden
his mother → Albert von Buxhoeveden, I
her father → Albert Graf von Jerichow
his father → Siegfried I av Orlamünde, Herzog
his father → Adalbert II, count of Ballenstedt.
his father → Matilda of Swabia
his mother → Gerberge of Burgundy
her mother → Mathilde de France, Reine Consort des Deux-Bourgognes
her mother → Louis IV, king of West Francia
her father → Eadgifu
his mother → Edward I "the Elder", king of The Anglo-Saxons
her father → Alfred the Great, king of The Anglo-Saxons
his father → Aethelwulf, king of Wessex
his father → Egbert, king of Wessex
his father → Ealhmund, Under King Of Kent
his father → Eaba
his father → Eoppa
his father → Ingild
his father → Coenred, Co-Ruler of Wessex
his father → Ceolweald
his father → Cutha Cathwulf
his father → Cuthwine
his father → Ceawlin, king of Wessex
his father → Cynric, king of Wessex
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Private User a person can't have two sets of biological parents. One has to be incorrect in such a case. Geni has settings to list foster parents, adoptive parents, etc. but they definitely work with us to try to resolve conflicting parents that don't fit any of those legitimate categories because otherwise the incorrect parents being connected leads to incorrect pathways and misleading lineage.

Yes, indeed on all those points, but surely there must be a way to accommodate for competing historical sources.

We can always put notes in their profiles for possible or alternate parents.

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