William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

My direct ancestor. What a man, and very proud to have him as ancestor. , but less happy about having King Lackland John as a direct ancestkr

Courtesy fourth earl, de facto first earl of the second creation. The title went through five of his sons, all of whom died without heirs male; then it had to be re-created again for William de Valence (first earl of the third creation) and again for Laurence Hastings (first earl of the fourth creation), and so on until the tenth and current creation (Herbert family).

Only the Herberts managed more than three generations, and several creations were one-offs.

Thank you Private User for your response. It looked convoluted when I began researching.

This is very unusual , I must study it more

Thanks!
If the Oxford DNB subscription weren't more expensive than its worth would be to me, I would see what the webpage has to say. Maven give it all the clarity needed without paying $295.00 for a year or $29.95 a month for Oxford DNB access.

Maryanne Gilbert, I feel the same way. Finding oneself in peerage labyrinths inevitably leads to wincing discoveries. I breathed sighs of relief when lines ended circa 1500.

My mother was a Fuller—direct line to Edward Fuller of the Mayflower. About 20 Mayflower passengers and the "ship's pilot" John Clarke are in my direct lines. Shelley & Hunter related lines came from England & Scotland in the 19th century as rugged "commoners" before immigrating.

There was one time the title was created as "Marquess of Pembroke" - for Anne Boleyn. *That* one didn't last too long....