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We can debate it ad eternum; people will use it as they see fit. Question is what standard, if any, do we enforce? Example here: Martha Rossouw.
---just want to remove Cape Winelands 1724 !!
Names ? : First name in first slot then all others in 2nd slot on profile ?
To say Jan van Rebeeck landed 1652 in the Western Cape then built the Castle in the Western Cape becomes a bit weird .
Is it possible to be born in a place that did not exist when you were born ?
Piet Janse died in Gauteng , South Africa 1840 ?
I find I learn about history when adding information.
When was Graaf Reinett established , the history of the town and the more information I get , the more I learn and Knowledge is the ultimate .
Why take shortcuts ?
Then we might as well say our ancestor born 1610 in Cape Town Western Cape died 1680 Cape Town , Western Cape and not bother searching for valid primary sources .
A person or individual / Profile also differentiated from another individual /Profile from where they were born or died .
If the place is wrong why bother with any information then ? Just add anything you like or believe ?
My point is James changed the names to what they are now, but every time there’s a discussion the outrage is directed at curators. Conversely, when we lock the fields and lock the relationships, that evokes a similar outrage. There just doesn’t appear to be a happy medium where everyone is happy.
I prefer to use:
First name field: First field
Other names: Second field
Last name: Married name (most recent, or as per Death Notice).
Birth name: Literally name at baptism.
Re: place names, I agree they should be contemporaneous. I detest seeing new names for old places. However, I understand it is complex. A level of complexity that some users don’t wish to delve into.
Add to that the place name recommendations from Geni are modern place names. I use those for burial locations etc.
But not everyone agrees; for example Alex Armenia prefers at least two names in first name field to avoid Geni’s “optimistic” matching system etc.
Others prefer not to use the Last name field for married names as earlier archive records use the maiden name as Afrikaans women didn’t take the husband’s name in the earlier years at the Cape. It’s a balancing act that needs to take everyone into consideration. It should be flexible, but not to a fault.
Filling out the names on a profile:
When I was still a novice Geni user, I used to type the full names in the first name field because when using the middle name field too, I could only see the first name displayed, and with my family where so many people have the same first names, that was very confusing.
I later on learned that one can select the name display preferences in your account settings.
Thereafter, I decided to complete the name fields on the profile as Geni provides the blank profile window. Thus, first name in First name field, and the rest of the names in the Middle name field. Then I made sure that I select the name display option that fits my preference.
By the way, a similar topic is also how to use the birth surname field....
Here are 3 URLs to this topic that may be worth reading:
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038433653-What-is-the-Bi...
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/229705067-How-do-I-know-whi...
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/229703607-How-do-I-customiz...
Go well
Marietjie Kotze
Marietjie Kotze -- thx you a star.
Thx Drummond
--- Re: place names, I agree they should be contemporaneous. I detest seeing new names for old places. However, I understand it is complex. A level of complexity that some users don’t wish to delve into. --- Why not just learn something new ? Can only benefit one ?
e.g my ancestors born Lemberg , Lithuania not Lviv , Ukraine .