Invitation to Members of Revered Rabbis Project to Participate in Rabbinical Lineages Project

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my granfather:
Hakadosh Hachasid Rabbi Chaim Lajser Katz- HaCohen Wartski, Ztk"l,hy"d
Descendant of Rabbi Mordechai jaffe
Rabbi Mordechai Jaffe, Ba׳al "Halevushim"
I tried to find information on how ,and I came to the conclusion that he his descendant or through
Hagaon Rabbi Isaac Zajdel, Zt"l(of lask&Ropczyce)
(or his wife)
or through
Hagaon Rabbi Majlech halevi Segal,zt"l, (A.B.D. koil=kolo)
(or his wife)

In projects in which you are a partner, have you come across information that can help me find the information I am looking for
?
And another question please: Many of the rabbis involved in the project are my great-grandfathers, but I did not understand how I can help to the project

Haim Katz - Hachoen Wartski I appreciate your question and would like to clarify that one thing is 'descent' from an ancestor and another thing is 'ydna descent' from an ancestor. The latter involves only the son-to-son line of descent and is the only type I am addressing here. To the extent that your research involves ydna descent then this project can help you. Otherwise you would need to use traditional methods such as family trees, rabbinical books, and cemeteries, which I do not possess the skills to help you with. As discussed below, the ydna method is very precise, but also very limited: it can only accurately answer the one question of whether you are a son-to-son relative to someone else who has already tested or whose lineage is identified in the project (see next for an example).

Focusing on the ydna strategy, testing as many family lines as you can would be the next best way for you to help yourself and this project. For example, since there are two ydna haplogroups already identified for Ba'al Halevushim, you could compare your ydna to these and see if you match either one. If you do match one or the other, not only would you be adding important evidence to your own research, but also helping to solidify the evidence for the entire research community by providing another confirmation that the identified haplogroup is the correct one.

I understand there can be various obstacles to testing, such as cost, availability of testing in your area, fear of what may be revealed, and the availability of relatives who can be tested: all I can say about these is to do the best you can. If using the ydna strategy proves to be impossible then there is always the hope that others may find a way to make use of this new research method HaShem and geneticists have given first to our generation (and succeeding ones). Think about how history might have been different if this technique has been available in the time of the Geonim :-0

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I thank you very much for your answer
.
The only side where I can be son after son is on the side of the Wartski Hachoen family, and there I have the biggest problem, I know who I am a descendant of, but not how. Even the names of my great uncles imply that I am right

As for Rabbi Mordechai jaffe it is through my grandfather's mother, so it is not son after son.
However, if the cost of the test was cheaper, I would definitely consider performing the test. I have no fear of "discoveries" that could be, on the contrary the test can give me a lot of information, I wait for easier times financially

I have a bizillion Revered Rabbis in my line. I’m the 8th great granddaughter of the Vilna Gaon which I have traced back to 500, almost all Rabbis. I am also of the Jafe rabbinical dynasty. I have threads to Rashi and almost every famous rabbis I studied in Sunday school. I have oral histories as well as well documented proof. I’m in Chiam Fredman’s book and he is my sixth cousin. I would love to join this group.
Laurie Janov Williams

Laurie Janov Williams You have some interesting lineages in your background. Please see the project page (URL on first post) for more information about what this group is doing.

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer I am grateful for your input. At the moment there is only a Shtengen-Margoliot lineage on the index. If you are able to contribute a Margolis lineage to the Index, this would be very nice. Thanks, Adam

PS: I believe I have located the G-M201 lineage of R' Mordechai Margolis Is it possible to obtain a more precise hg than M201?

Excellent, Hatte. Unless you object, I would like to add G-Z18606 as the identifier of the R' Mordechai Margolis lineage, with the source being your Margolis project. Thanks for your work on this family and GENI. Good luck with the ongoing work.

I also have Margolen(?) and Katzenellenbogan and Margoilot (sp) in my tree.

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer Five different haplogroups does not surprise me one bit. It can be difficult sometimes to comprehend the scope of genetic genealogy, especially at the population level. I would like to ask you if you could paste the URL of the Margolis FTDNA project here. I have done some searching, but cannot seem to place. Sometimes FTDNA projects are difficult to locate (has happened to me before). Thanks.

The above URL seems to be broken or truncated. I found this URL: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/margulies-varients/about. There doesn't appear to be anyone administering the project.