Sarah (Bloom) Cohen - Parents

Sarah's 1962 obit - definitely this Sarah - same children, late husband - says she is "sister of Mary Sigel of New York, N.Y. and Lillian Drosd of Miami Beach, Florida"
In her SSN Application, Lillian has her parents as Herbert and Rose.

Golda Rose Levy Burke - any thoughts on the marriage record I refer to above?

What else do we know - census, Immigration?

I don't see anything showing Sarah as Sadie.

on another note - it looks like Mitchell married Frieda Kamm to her brother Emil.

On Lillian's Immigration record - she is joining her brother David in Boston. I doubt she would have said her half-brother even if it is true.

Herbert died in Lithuania. We assume that his wives did also?

Always more questions.

Hi Golda,

I'm sorry. You know Lilly and Rose were born in VT or MA. Jacob and Mary lied!!!!!!!

Golda Rose Levy Burke - Many of my relatives of that time frame who were Sarah used Sadie -
So I see it as a totally normal, usual nickname for Sarah.

On the 1910 Census, we have David E and Sarah C Cohen with their children Frances R age 4, and Leo age 1. Living in Boston, MA. Married 5 years.
Is this them?
We have the Naturalization Petition for David Edward Cohen and it says his wife is Sarah, and gives names and dates of birth of children - it fits with this Census.

I agree, David Walter Bloom is probably the 'brother David Blum' Lillian was going to.
And folks said - and still say - brother when technically it might be half brother.

As to whether or not David's father Herbert ever came to US -- check out this article: Herbert (Herzl) Bloom David Walter Bloom says he came to US with his father in 1893, and his father was naturzlized.

Sorry - link for article is https://www.newspapers.com/clip/87198225/news-david-walter-bloom-an...

Please check out for Rose Bloom, Frances Bloom, Helen Bloom and Belle Bloom in America. I saw MyHeritage records

FAKE Siegel

Jacob and Mary Lied about Rose Bloom in Russia. I don't want to do. Hurt my feeling.

Private User
I have created a Public Discussion for discussing where Rose was born: https://www.geni.com/discussions/239246
This Public Discussion is for discussing who are the parents of Sarah (Bloom) Cohen
Where Rose was born has nothing to do with that, and so is inappropriate here

Meanwhile, David Walter Bloom's death record (2 Nov 1956, Tucson, available at Ancestry.com) gives his parents as Hertz Bloom and Frieda (unknown surname). His son David A. Bloom was the informant.

I notice also that "Freida Kamm Bloom Kamm"'s Kamm children allegedly span birth years from the late 1870s to the 1890s. As far as we know, the Bloom siblings were born in the late 1870s-mid-1880s. Presumably Freida wasn't married to two men at the same time and didn't alternate between them. So something is off here, birth years and/or parents.

I suspect that there may have been an incorrect merger of Freida's profile at some point in the past.

The Freida Kamm who was married to Emil Kamm and died in Chicago in 1925 (not 1931) was from Lemberg (Lvov), which is nowhere near Kovno. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQ3K-G83

Is there any real evidence that this woman was ever married to Herzl Bloom?

For what little it's currently worth, a family living in Vilijampole in the late 1800s with very similar family members whom I have reason to believe might be this family (but for a different surname, so I can't swear it's them, though the surname is the one attributed to Herzl Bloom's other [?] wife) had a matriarch named Rokhe Feige (daughter of David Vulf), which could perhaps explain the use of both "Rose" and "Frieda" in anglicized records. (Even if this is the wrong family, a double name is still possible.) But I have no idea where "Bessie Kaplan" might come from.

I have been scouring the internet for those Census records. We are closing in on this. So much fun!

Lillian (Lilly) Drosd Lillian was briefly married to a Jack Kaufman later on, Mitchell did say that Herbert had 3 wives.
Anyone read Rudolph's autobiography? I think I will look for it - I know it is on Amazon.

Are you all familiar with the Bloom Southwest Archives? The Univ of AZ has a Jewish History Museum and much of the Bloom (and Ferrin) family's information can be found there.

Martha Ferrin-Fernandez - Wow!
Is it online, or does one have to go in person?
Do you have info you can share?

http://azarchivesonline.org/xtf/view?docId=ead/uoa/UASJA001.xml

http://azarchivesonline.org/xtf/view?docId=ead/uoa/UASJA001.xml

https://speccoll.library.arizona.edu/collections/papers-david-and-l...

Think still missing main link

Private User , you might be looking for this: https://swja.library.arizona.edu/

The finding aids are digitized, but a lot of the materials seem to be in scrapbooks and would require in-person research.

I'm Crypto Jews. https://swja.library.arizona.edu/content/crypto-jews

Do we know when Sarah arrived in the U.S., maybe from census records? Maybe we can find a passenger manifest for her.

David Walter Bloom

Meanwhile, I'm still looking for David Walter Bloom 's arrival. I've tried searching Boston arrivals on Blum and variants, David and variants, etc., for several years around 1894, but so far no dice. It's possible that I've just missed the winning combination, or that something was mistranscribed.

I did not believe Rose was born in Lithuania.

Private User , this thread is about Sarah Bloom Cohen's parents (who are presumably also David Walter Bloom's and Mary Bloom SIegel's and Lilly Bloom Drosd's parents). It's not about Rose Siegel.

Do you have any information or sources to add about the parents of Sarah, David, Lilly, and Mary Bloom?

I know Mary Bloom was born in Lithuania on other Geni Tree. I am waiting until Mike will fix it up on my Tree. Be patience.

I knew Rose was born in NYC

Jacob and Mary Siegel LIED!!!!

Private User
I do not have any other info, sadly. I had spoken to one of the Blooms (it may have been Dave) years ago, trying to learn about my Ferrin great grandparents and while I got a lot of Bloom history, he didn’t know much about the Ferrin side. I may still have the notes from that conversation packed Sm downstairs, I’ll try to find them this week.
Off topic: Are you any relation to Barry Lubin (retired Ringling Bros clown)?

My wife's birth certificate was FRAUD in Cook County, Illinois (my wife is related to Jacobson) from Arthur Harold Ferrin in Arizona, Chicago and Denmark.

We found my wife's bio father in 2018.

Martha Ferrin-Fernandez I did not see your mtDNA and YDNA on Ferrin family autosomal DNA matches. Are you parent of Ferrin via GedMatch?