Matilda of Zutphen - Sources?

Started by Sharon Doubell on Saturday, March 27, 2021
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3/28/2021 at 12:00 AM

Sharon, maybe you can contact Fred Bergman.

3/28/2021 at 12:20 AM

He should see this.

3/28/2021 at 12:47 AM

Strange that in these profiles no sources mentioned. Without a source in this part of the tree, its like putting your finger in the air and saying where the wind is coming from. Someone has to clarify where he has this information from!!

3/28/2021 at 12:50 AM

Exactly :-)

3/30/2021 at 10:11 PM

A. GRAVEN van ZUTPHEN


The county of Zutphen was a late creation, formed out of the remains of the county of Hamalant[1256]. The county of Zutphen was inherited by the counts of Gelderland, who are shown in the document LOWER RHINE NOBILITY.


1. OTTO (-1037 or before). Graaf van Zutphen. The Brunwilarensis Monasterii Fundatio names "Ottonis comitis de Sudveno" when recording the marriage of his daughter[1257]. m ---. The name of Otto's wife is not known. Graf Otto & his wife had two children:
a) ADELHEID . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Heiress of Zutphen, and the Vogteien of Münster and Borghorst. "Comiti Godescalco et uxori suæ Adelhaidæ et eorum filiis Gebehardo et Ottoni" reached agreement with Wilhelm Bishop of Utrecht concerning certain payments, by charter dated 1059[1258]. m GOTTSCHALK, son of HERMANN & his wife --- (-killed in battle 1063 or 1064).
b) MATHILDE van Zutphen . The Brunwilarensis Monasterii Fundatio names "filiam Ottonis comitis de Sudveno nomine Mathildem" as wife of Ludolf[1259]. m LUDOLF Herr von Waldenburg, son of EZZO [Erenfried] Pfalzgraf of Lotharingia & his wife Mathilde of Germany [Ottonen] (-11 Apr 1031, bur Brauweiler).

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#MathildeZutphenMLudolfE...

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3/30/2021 at 10:59 PM

Brilliant work, Marvin. You would be an excellent curator for medieval genealogy.

3/31/2021 at 5:06 AM

Thank you Marvin. So it seems there must have been a mismerge, and these must two different Ottos?

3/31/2021 at 7:16 AM

Here we go: Otto van Zutphen

3/31/2021 at 7:53 AM

[Otto van Zutphen OTTO] (-1037 or before). Graaf van Zutphen. The Brunwilarensis Monasterii Fundatio names "Ottonis comitis de Sudveno" when recording the marriage of his daughter[1257]. m ---. The name of Otto's wife is not known. Graf Otto & his wife had two children:
>a) [Adelheid ADELHEID] . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Heiress of Zutphen, and the Vogteien of Münster and Borghorst. "Comiti Godescalco et uxori suæ Adelhaidæ et eorum filiis Gebehardo et Ottoni" reached agreement with Wilhelm Bishop of Utrecht concerning certain payments, by charter dated 1059[1258]. M [Gottschalk van Twente, count of Zutphen GOTTSCHALK], son of [Hermann von Emmerich, Graf in Westfalen HERMANN] & his wife --- (-killed in battle 1063 or 1064).

>b) [Matilda of Zutphen MATHILDE van Zutphen] . The Brunwilarensis Monasterii Fundatio names "filiam Ottonis comitis de Sudveno nomine Mathildem" as wife of Ludolf[1259]. m [Liudolf, Count of Zutphen LUDOLF Herr von Waldenburg], son of [Ezzo, Count Palatine of Lotharingia EZZO] [Erenfried] Pfalzgraf of Lotharingia & his wife [Mathilde of Germany. countess Palatine of Lotharingia Mathilde of Germany] [Ottonen] (-11 Apr 1031, bur Brauweiler).

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#MathildeZutphenMLudolfE...

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