Mary Elizabeth Waters (Lloyd) - Mash Merge Mess!

Started by Private User on Wednesday, March 10, 2021
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3/10/2021 at 5:56 PM

I just cut her off Col. Philemon Lloyd's tree (again), because he had only seven daughters - not eight - and all seven are accounted for with NONE of them marrying any Thomas Waters.

She currently has two husbands - BOTH bogusly attributed to "William Waters and Margaret Robins Clark". This is YET ANOTHER attempt to false-graft the Philemon Waters line onto the Edward Waters line, but it's totally fake.

1) Margaret widow Clarke is NOT proven to be a daughter of Col. Obedience Robins by any marriage - it is not even certain that he *had* a first marriage.

2) There is absolutely zero evidence that William Waters and Margaret Clarke had any children at all.

3) While William Waters *did* have a son Thomas, by his *second* wife Dorothy Marriott (as recorded in his will of 1685), he was almost certainly the youngest child and probably died heirless sometime between c. 1690 (no codicils or comments to probated will in 1689) and the early 1700s. (Neither Thomas nor any descendants attributed to him are named in the Marriott chancery case that ran from 1717 to sometime after 1747.)

4) While we still have no Y-DNA results directly from the Edward Waters line, we now have a reported test from the (probably) collateral line of John Waters of Anne Arundel. That result *does not* match the test results from the Philemon Waters line - not even the same haplogroup.

One of her alleged husbands (Thomas Waters, Sr.) is alleged to have been the "brother" of a group of people who would otherwise have no connection at all: Priscilla Denwood, alleged to have married Levin Denwood II (he did marry a Priscilla but we don't know her birth name), Susannah Terrell (another version of this phantom lady?), William Waters, Jr. (probably actually the son of Col. William Waters' *second* marriage - explicitly referenced in the Marriott chancery case), Richard Waters (ditto), and John Waters, I (ditto). The source of this (mis)information is a Wikitree family tree with little to no primary documentation to support it.

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