Henry Spencer, of Badby - Parents disproved

Started by Erica Howton on Tuesday, January 26, 2021
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1/26/2021 at 3:54 PM

Looks like a recent article shows that this Spencer line is not related to the Despensers, and this Henry is the earliest known.

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http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/getperson.php?personID=I2160...

Earliest known member of this line. The pedigree in the 1619 Visitation of Warwickshire linking this Spencer family with the Despencers has been disproved.

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[S4464] Clifford L. Stott, "Ancestry of Agnes Spencer, Wife of Thomas Higginson of Berkeswell, Warwickshire, Ancestor of Nine American Immigrants, Cousin to Diana, Princess of Wales, Sir Winston Churchill, President George Washington, and Others." The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 174:199, Summer 2020; 174:330, Fall 2020

1/26/2021 at 3:58 PM

Also see this useful chart.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~riss/genealogy/baldwin/bw/sp_engl_im...

Spencer Ancestry of the Four Presidents, per AAP

Henry Spencer 1420 - 1478
.. +Isabella Lincoln 1420

2 William Spencer 1440 -
.. +Elizabeth Empson 1440 -
3 John Spencer, Sir 1460 - 1522
.. +Isabel Graunt 1460 -
4 William Spencer, Sir 1480 - 1532
.. +Susan Knightly 1480 - 1539

AAP = Ancestors of American Presidents, 1995, Gary Body Roberts

Help cleaning up this Presidential tree is much appreciated.

1/26/2021 at 6:12 PM

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~riss/genealogy/baldwin/geo/northampt...

Northamptonshire is the ancient home of the Henry Spencer and Isabella (Lincoln) Spencer, the alleged progenitors of the Spencer lines leading to Princess Diana, Winston Churchill, four American presidents and the American immigrants: the Spencer brothers, Ann (Marbury) Hutchinson, and Nicholas Spencer of Virginia.
It is also the ancient home of Lawrence Washington, ancestor of George Washington.

1/26/2021 at 11:32 PM

https://www.americanancestors.org/browse/publications/the-register/...

NEHGR Vol. 174, Summer 2020

Our lead article is Ancestry of Agnes Spencer, Wife of Thomas Higginson of Berkeswell, Warwickshire, Ancestor of Nine American Immigrants, Cousin to Diana, Princess of Wales, Sir Winston Churchill, President George Washington, and Others. Building on his earlier Higginson article, author Clifford L. Stott shows how all these people were descended from three Spencer brothers of Warwickshire and Badby, Northamptonshire, born in the mid-fifteenth century. The immediate descendants of the three brothers are traced in the text, and a two-page chart shows how those named in the article’s title and U.S. Presidents Washington, Coolidge, Franklin Roosevelt, and the two Bushes are descended from one of the three Spencer brothers. As the author’s major articles have shown, finding a network of distantly related American immigrants is not surprising.

The article begins with “The Despencer Forgery.” In 1595 a successful Spen-cer descendant paid a corrupt herald to grant him arms based on the arms of the extinct noble Despencer family. This Spencer family clearly was not descended from the Despencer family, as proved in print in 1901. However, the Spencers rose to gentry status, several men were knighted, and Robert Spencer (1570–1627), ancestor of Diana, Princess of Wales, and Sir Winston Churchill was granted a title

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