Joyce Barker (Burton) - Joyce Cresset

Was she both?

From the profile notes in Sir Edward Burton of Longnor

“ From Stirnet's "Burton01" page (1st Stirnet link below): "Commoners (which mentioned that his mother was relict of Robert Cresset) identifies the mother of his son as his first wife, Joyce, daughter of Harry Griffin. BLG1952 follows Visititation (which starts with this generation) in identifying her as Joyce Cressett." <It should be noted that Joyce Cresset appears to be this Sir Edward's niece.>”

Or neither?

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Burton-320

“Joyce has been suggested in various Pedigrees to be a Griffin, a Cressett and a Coyney. On balance, the most plausible evidence is that of the arms on the Monument now at Atcham, Shropshire, indicating that she was a Coyney.”

Or both?

===Disputed Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Burton-320

Richardson[8] indicated that the Joyce who married first Ralph Lane and second Edward Burton was the daughter of Robert Cressett and Christian Stapleton.

Burke[2] referred to the Joyce depicted with Edward Burton on his monument as Joyce Coyney but noted that his first wife was Joyce Griffin, daughter of Harry Griffin Esq.

On balance, the most plausible evidence is that of the arms on the Monument now at Atcham, Shropshire, indicating that one of his wives was a Coyney with mother Stapleton; and that one of his wives (probably his last wife) was a Joyce who was previously married to Ralph Lane.

Is it possible that he was married to three different women named Joyce?

Hello Erica, thanks for replying, Do you believe Edwards son John’s mother was Joyce Cresset. If you have any info or opinion that would be appreciated.

The info needed I guess is if she was descended from Thomas Cresset.

Doesn’t look like it.

Thomas Cressett of Upton Doesn’t list a Joyce daughter.

Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013) Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), vol IV, page 146 #10

Okay, who ever manages her should fix it I guess.

Im having trouble finding Joyce Barker as a child of “this” Sir Edward Burton of Longnor

Does anyone have more substantiation?

Summary of the Will of Edward Burton 1524

In his will made on 20 Apr 1524 and proved on 14 Oct 1524 he was recorded as "Edward Burton of Longnor within the Countie of Salop gentilman".[7][17] His will was to be buried in the "chapel of St George in the church of Saint Chadde of Salop".

He made bequests to:

his wife Joys;
his daughter Anne;
his daughter Jone Corbet;
his daughter Elyn Banaster;
Thomas Bagley; and
Mary Barker and Dorathe Barker.

Sir Edward Burton of Longnor

Sir Edward Burton MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1460
Longnor, Shropshire, England
Death: April 23, 1524 (59-68)
Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
Place of Burial: St Chad's, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:
Son of Sir Robert Burton of Longnor and Christian Cressett
Husband of Joyce Burton and Jocosa “Joyce” Barton
Father of Joyce Barker; Joanna Burton; Eleanor Allen; Joseph Burton; Agnes Hull and 2 others
Brother of Thomas Burton
Half brother of Thomas Cressett, Esq., of Upton Cressett
Office: Master of the Robes to King Henry Vll
Added by: LTC John Edward Norvell on September 4, 2008
Managed by: Oliver Marcus Stedall and 31 others
Curated by: Erica Howton