The aim of this discussion is to try to come to some conclusions together, based on real evidence, about the Hendersons of Virginia, USA, and whether any or many of them were descended from Capt. William Henderson, of Fordell
Why, what's the problem?
Well, as I write on 2020-12-5, one of his sons, Ens. John Henderson Capt. John Henderson is shown with two values for Y-DNA, and he has two fathers, Captain William Henderson and NN Henderson.
If you are a Henderson, as I am (Jim Henderson), you probably know that the Chief of the Henderson Clan is descended from the Fordell line, (taking Sir John Henderson, 4th of Fordell as an example). Naturally, we all want one of our ancestors to be in that line :-) So there is a strong temptation, where we find amongst our ancestors a William or a John, to merge that profile with one of the same name in the Fordell line, and we are IN! :-)
But then a living male amongst our close relatives does a Y-DNA test, and it doesn't match the R-BY2868 value of the current Chief :-(
What to do?
Well, we need to take a more careful look at our family line, and upload documents to Geni and cite them to prove the facts we claim. As we look further back, we may come across a profile that shows two different values for Y-DNA, derived from two different male lines. (The values could be different if one living descendant took a "67" test and the other took a "Big-Y" test, because the former is more generic and the latter is more specific. But if both living descendants took the "67" test, and they got different results, they have to be in different male lines.)
We then need to look along the line and decide where the undue merge was made, and in the Revisions tab undo the merge.
We then need to ask a Curator to make the two profiles Master Profiles and lock them against re-merging.
I've started this discussion because of the confusion surrounding the descendants of Captain William Henderson, in the hope that people who know real details about these people and can prove them with documents that they upload and cite. Then we can lock everything down so that the lines don't gain more accretions from less experienced Geni members, who see a blue flag and love to do tree merges.
I am not descended from these lines, so I don't want to be making these decisions. I'm doing this because I am a volunteer genealogist with the Clan Henderson Society, and some of our members have their roots in Virginia USA, but their Y-DNA doesn't match the Fordell line. The most prominent of these is the leader of the group researching the Henderson family at Family Tree DNA, Private User. David has done the "67" test, it doesn't match the Fordell line. But the family history passed down from his forbears leads back to Samuel Henderson, who was said to be the son of Captain William Henderson. When he realised the DNA didn't match, he broke the link to Captain William Henderson and made the father of Samuel be NN Henderson.
Since then he and I have been trying to set things straight, but well-meaning members see similar names and merge people back together again (grrr).
So please feel free to contribute to this discussion and to add documents to profiles and cite them to support facts. Jim Henderson