Patrick Murray of Falahill - Did he have a daughter Margaret?

Your reference:

Evidence from the National Records of Scotland

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24 April 1535: Charter under the Great Seal of Scotland by which James V, King of Scots, confirms possession of twelve and one half acres of the lands of Philiphauch, together with the mill of Philiphauch, in the sheriffdom of Selkirk, to Agnes, Countess of Bothwell, and her husband, Robert, Lord Maxwell. This land was held of the king by Patricii Murray de Falowhill, son and heir of the deceased Jacobi Murray de Falowhill (cum Pat. Murray patruus dicti Pat. onus procurationis acceptaverat). RMS: 1466

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That would be Margaret’s daughter Agnes Stewart, Countess of Bothwell

(were Agnes & Isabel the same person?)

Erica, I am having a look at Margaret Murray but it is taking a bit longer than I first thought. I will get back to you in due course, Neil

Thank you, I see the cleanup - and placing her in the correct generation is not easy.

A Margaret Murray of Falahill Is seen as sister of John Murray of Falahill, “The Outlaw”, who was the namesake of Presidential Dog “Fala,” perhaps the most notable Scottish Terrier in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fala_(dog)_

So - we should track FDR’s ancestry as a Geni connections check.

Sir Robert Douglas identified Margaret Murray as a daughter of Patrick Murray of Falahill in the account of the Stewart Earls of Traquair he produced for The Peerage of Scotland, which was published in 1764.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?cc=ecco;c=ecco...

Sir Robert Douglas did not offer proof of relationship. He simply cited his own account of the Stewart Earls of Buchan.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004896980.0001.000/1:48?rgn=div1;...

I have been unable to identify the ancestry of Margaret Murray in any of the secondary evidence I have consulted. John Murray acted himself as a pledge for Margaret Murray and her son James Stewart when their lease of the lands of Berrybus and Ploro was renewed on 15 April 1501, and I have supposed that John Murray was the outlaw laird of Falahill (since he found acting as a pledge in another part of the same rental) but that can hardly be regarded as satisfactory evidence of relationship.

Concerning the marriage of Margaret Murray to William Murray. This appears to have been first mentioned by John Milne, LL.D., in the account of the Stewart Earls of Buchan he produced for Sir James Balfour Paul's updated version of The Scots Peerage (1905).

https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun02pauluoft/page/267/mod...

John Milne did not cite evidence of the marriage, and I have been unable to identify any from the secondary records I have consulted.

James III, King of Scots, gave the land and barony of Traquair to James Stewart, Earl of Buchan, by means of a charter dated 3 February 1478-79. This land was in the king's hands because of the forfeiture of the deceased William Murray, but this charter does not mention Margaret Murray.

https://archive.org/details/registrummagnisi02scot/page/292/mode/1up

Twelve years later James Stewart, Earl of Buchan, gave the barony of Traquair to his bastard son James Stewart, by means of a charter dated 18 May 1491. Without explanation as to why he did so, the Earl reserved an annuity from the barony to Margaret Murray, which was to return to him following her death.

https://archive.org/details/registrummagnisi02scot/page/450/mode/1up

John Milne may have taken Margaret Murray's annuity as evidence of a marriage between her and William Murray of Traquair, but it seems clear from the charter that it was a gift from the Earl of Buchan, rather than the terce due to the widow of the previous owner.

James Stewart, Earl of Buchan, does not say why he gave an annuity from Traquair to Margaret Murray, but we know from other record sources that she was the mother of his bastard son James, and that was reason enough.

https://archive.org/details/exchequerrollsof10scot/page/736/mode/1up

So we leave well enough alone, then.

Thanks for looking.

Hi my name is Eugene Kerr and I believe that angie stewart is related to me back in the early 1500 but Im not sure I will have to have some time to look her up and get back to you