Adelinda / Egila von Babenberg - who is this un-sourced MP!?

How did Hedwig of Babenberg's mother Baba get replaced by Ingeltrude von Babenberg with no Discussion?

BABA, daughter of --- (-after 864). The Annalista Saxo names Adalbert and his "pater Heinricus dux, mater Baba dicebatur"[95]. The primary source which confirms her name as Ingeltrudis has not yet been identified. Eckhardt suggests that Heinrich’s wife (whom he calls Ingeltrudis) was the daughter of Eberhard Marquis of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian], and therefore sister of Berengario I King of Italy[96]. This appears chronologically tight, although possible. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Hedwigdied903

What was lost here?
Hedwig of Babenberg's parents were changed to Eticho I, count in Ammergau and Adelinda / Egila von Babenberg by Livio Scremin.
15 Jul at 7:22 PM

if you re-read the first message, a TROLL has passed through here,
(be careful surnames are changed by him don't be fooled)

trying to put Hedwig of Babenberg in the right position whit relationship blocked you see my wrong click of "15 Jul at 7:22" but you can also see put back just 3 minutes later.
..but he must be attached to both parents
..and cleaned up the surnames and entries on the other side of the canceled merge. ...

Not seeing the troll in the revisions - but that doesn't mean you're wrong. Which surnames have been changed?

PS I've only locked the relationships now

(Engeltrude “Ingeltrudis” is the other side un-merged to clean)

& this Ingeltrude von Babenberg is the fresh wrong ADD to cut off & after delete (first cut, after delete)

*https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=78228487430
looking at this, (if you already know that unmerges are to be used only for emergency because they mix data)

looking at this you should have the complete vision.

Cut the marriage relationship of https://www.geni.com/profile/edit_relationships/6000000135368254834

Does that sort out what you're seeing?

I am not allowed to see that link, but in any case the wrong mother is gone.

now according to ML just assign MOM BABA to
Hedwig of Babenberg
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I saw that you also cut the marriage of Adelinda / Egila von Babenberg ..so I had smelled something else older;)

there is a nice mess over Ingeltrudis (Baba) de Frioul

starting with the brother Reginar I "Longneck", Duke of Lorraine and Count of Hainault wrong clone of:
Reginar I "Longneck", Duke of Lorraine and Count of Hainault
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to make matters worse I think they competed to assign the surname to Berengar, margrave de Neustrie

NOT Spoleto: I found his brothers and father on ML and pasted the sources

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as if it wasn't enough they married him to the daughter of the emperor (Helletrude de Lorraine)

but this is what is certainly known of the emperor's son-in-law:
Berengar, margrave de Neustrie

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& if they wanted to refer Berengar I, emperor of the Romans who had a wife Bertila of Spoleto

& so a daughter Gerberge del Friuli
..has made quite a mess

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the total block all around BABA didn't help
(not even being able to write in the info is never a good idea:)

The block wasn't mine. Probably from before we had relationship lock. I have removed it and will ask the Curator Private User to come and help you with this. Call me back here if that doesn't happen - and I'll work on it.

The problem with making this Baba her mother, is that she seems to have a known mother, and Cawley says that Hedwig's grandmother is unknown.

for those who only logged in now, the work has moved on to:
Ingeltrudis (Baba) de Frioul that all MyHeritage DIY genealogies have taken as fact Engeltrude “Ingeltrudis” it is also reported as possible on ML (I pasted the selective passage, PLZ we all stop spam entire pages on info PLZ)

therefore it would be a passage that with some support of some other book of some historian could also be made and specified, but as BABA it could be Ingeltrude,
Not so that a user recently forced the block but separating the children of BABA (user who has lengthened real lines of several nation of 1700 to appear directly descends from it [troll alarm])
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my next work step would be on the surname of the now wrong father of BABA, restore it to that of his father and brothers and therefore probably cut he from BABA (I pasted the ML in the info) area compiled 10 years ago in German tight, I would be on the bench willingly, to let you do.

and when renamed correctly, see if there is any chance that:
Berengar, margrave de Neustrie
is the same person as Berengar, margrave de Neustrie?
(or it would be another cut to do)

cleaning over I have found, updated and upgraded this to approve:
*https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000010321429878?from%5Fflash...

& cleaning the node of
Gebhard d'Orléans, count of the Lahngau
is same node of
Gebhard d'Orléans, count of the Lahngau

I'm going too fast?

while we wait Private User (C) for cut parents to his Ingeltrudis (Baba) de Frioul (& cleaning surname) ...

PLZ FARKAS Mihály László (C) we need to clean up your total blocked node on Gebhard d'Orléans, count of the Lahngau for merge this exactly same node Gebhard d'Orléans, count of the Lahngau
(primary ML source in this unlocked)

-Ernst I, count in Nordgau [MP]
is the exactly the same:
-Ernst I, count in Nordgau [MP]
& this very old by another (C):
-Ernst I, count in Nordgau who brings with him a sister whom I attacked following primary sources 3 days ago, and unknown parents, as still reported by the note of the first [MP] but which instead has parents..

Alex Moes (C) ADMN you who seem still active do you want to work that knot?
I think it's been a long time since no one has been working on it.

Hi Livio Scremin
The first two Ernst don't immediately look like a match to me but all 3 need a good look before I'd be comfortable with merging them.

ehheeh be careful not to be fooled by the multilingual:
in German and English they sound completely different, but they are exactly the same (with some cuts to make)
Yes, I also share the method of "cleaning" before merge.. but the important thing is that there is someone awake on that side :)

OK since Private User (C) does not arrive look what i found:

'''Baba di Spoleto''' comes for sure from:

-https://fabpedigree.com/s071/f010388.htm

old un-trusted site, used extensively in past years, for suggestions of possible imaginative connections, (note how the site uses terms as "possible" or "alternative")..
..then to all online DIY genealogists then things must get out of hand, also merging a un-sourced father
"Berengar (Duke) of SPOLETO"
to Berengar, margrave de Neustrie
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so CUT parents to Ingeltrudis (Baba) de Frioul
& clean up that surname.
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SORRY for a little personal consideration:
how important it is to leave a trace of the sources we follow, "tomorrow" in the event of conflicts, the sources followed can be evaluated, which in the meantime can be changed updated or denied .. it is the only way to distinguish oneself from malicious intentions that do everything to descend from their favorite VIP, or perhaps from "computer illiterates" who now with everyone a phone in hand, technology has no more secrets for them, and they make, insert, mix, merge... :D

The two Ernst MPs do need to be merged, then we need to resolve whether the parents stated in de.wikipedia are reliable or need to be removed (Medlands states they are unknown and I am inclined to follow)

Since we are talking about a single generation: wiki DE does not go up yet, but stops to mention 2 names and also cites a source in detail..

considering this I would merge the 2 unknowns above the 2 names,
also leaving the old (C) note of "unknown parents" (done:)
& the ML that say "parents unknown" (done:)
but leaving inside the two names I the mention of the wiki DE page (done:)

You can merge with my blessing :D
& then don't leave that there is a lot of other stuff to do here XD

The de.wiki cites an author but the article references two published works by that author so we don't know which is the source. Worse one of the references seems to actually be for an Ernst who died c.1010

so if you have encountered errors in wiki DE, please you leave a "error note" in the info-about of those 2 profiles.. that we will whiten :)

In Private User absence, I'm cutting Ingeltrudis (Baba) de Frioul's relationship to these parents:
Berengar, margrave de Neustrie and Helletrude de Lorraine

as the parents of the wife of Heinrich von Babenberg, Markgraf in Friesland are unknown.

-http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Heinrichdied886
HEINRICH, son of --- (-killed in battle Paris [before Sep] 886, bur St Médard at Soissons). ... ... ...

m BABA, daughter of --- (-after 864). The Annalista Saxo names Adalbert and his "pater Heinricus dux, mater Baba dicebatur"[95]. The primary source which confirms her name as Ingeltrudis has not yet been identified. Eckhardt suggests that Heinrich’s wife (whom he calls Ingeltrudis) was the daughter of Eberhard Marquis of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian], and therefore sister of Berengario I King of Italy[96]. This appears chronologically tight, although possible.

Heinrich & his wife had four children:

1. HEDWIG [Hathui] ([850/55]-24 Dec 903). ... ...
2. ADALBERT (-executed 9 Jun 906). ... ... ... ...
3. ADALHARD (-executed 903). ...
4. HEINRICH (-killed in battle [902/03]). ...

Adelinda / Egila von Babenberg is not a child Heinrich and Baba. Cutting that relationship.

Livio Scremin, I think that sorts what you were seeing. Thank you for spotting it.