I'm trying to make sense of this document that lists the early Bryan family ties and doesn't mention the MacLand family at all:
https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/164966...
and this memorial listing Alice Needham as William Bryan I's wife, not Alice MacLand:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185679160/alice-bryan
Either I've gotten myself confused with all the same-named males in this family, which is possible, or else I don't know how Alice MacLand AND Alice Needham both fit into the family lines, or if they do.
With this Geni profile and it's connections Alice Needham being his wife makes sense of subsequent males being named Needham rather than MacLand and the Needham wife is sourced back to at least this 1900 reference from The NC historical and genealogical register.
Is it possible that the son John mentioned in the article as the son of William Bryan I who immigrated to America and was assumably married to Alice Needham the same John who had a son named William who married Alice MacLand? If so, that would seem to make all the pieces fit 'I think'.
Any help would be appreciated.
Get your self a membership to the FamilySearch.org and then access this posting. The membership is free. The Bryans that I am related to are all on there and some of them are related to Daniel Boone and my 4th Gr-grandfather, Bazel Boren who was married to Susannah [Bryan] 1st cousin of Rebecca [Bryan] Boone, wife of Daniel Boone, explorer of Kentucky and Tennessee https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19956789?cid=mem_copy
One thing I had forgotten to mention to Debbie Gambrell - the Needham maiden name is a fabrication.
Curator note: for Alice Bryant
daughter of Lord Needham" is most likely a myth or fabrication. There is NO proof either Lord Needham whose dates match could have had a daughter named Alice
So any documents are simply repeating a myth.
The Findagrave is particularly bad, with a fake portrait, no less.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185679160/alice-bryan
Randall Thompson I don't like FamilySearch. Every connection to me on there has errors in it. I fixed one part of my tree there that was very flawed but someone changed it all to the erros and I don't have the time or inclination to keep trying to fix it. Bottom line, I don't trust much of what I see on there unless I can find validation elsewhere. I much prefer Geni and Ancestry.
I am related to the Boone's several ways, being a Morgan descendant myself (so related to Sarah Morgan Boone, and sharing the much farther back Bohun connection to the Boone lines, as well as the Bryan cousin lines. Just a variety of connections there, so you and I are surely related multiple ways. lol
Erica Howton I wasn't aware of the fabrication but that explains why I couldn't find anything validating Alice Bryant (MacLand).
After you get the membership, it will make it possible for you access a whole lot of information on the Bryan families. In the meantime, I am going to see if there is any connection between your Bryans' and mine. Susannah [Bryan] Boren was my 4th Gr-grandmother and often accompanied her husband, Bazel and even fought beside him in skirmishes with Blackfish, War Chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee Tribe. She was also involved with him in numerous battles with the British and I believe she was with him when he defeated and killed Major Patrick Ferguson (inventor of the Ferguson Rifle) on Kings Mountain, in North Carolina, on 7 October 1780.
You will find my records to be fairly accurate because, when changes are made and are not correct, I make them prove to me that their entries are correct or remove them. My records are from journals and books that were written in the times and are reliable sources. Like this one: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19956789?cid=mem_copy
https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/58910885?cid=mem_copy This is my Bryan Family line back to royalty from my 4th Gr-grandmother. I don't know if it helps you or not but, I have checked it out and it is correct.
I am a descendant from this bouillabaisse of Bryan/Bryant/et.al. variations of the surname as well, on ‘Both’ paternal and maternal sides. My problem has always been ‘Veracity’ — the Bryan Bryant et.al. Variations in surname have always been mythical and mysterious. I am Very suspect of ‘Find a Grave’ and virtually all other genealogical companies & renditions.
Keep on plug-in’
We cannot find surviving children of Sir Francis Bryan, KB, ‘The Vicar of Hell’ so the royalty ancestry doesn’t hold up on this path.