George Ross - Where is the evidence he was son of David Ross, 11th of Balnagowan?

Re: , James 1 was offering land under favourable conditions in Ireland and My George Ross who married the great niece of the Viscount Claybourne, who had a huge grant, took advantage of this later.

Yes, that’s a good way to phrase it. Still doesn’t make clear that this would have been some 40 - 60 years later.

I’m thinking Balnogown must be the wrong direction. Did your George Ross come from aristocracy or only marry in? Must have been to win that bride, yes? So look to her family for clues, perhaps.

Here’s another clue. IF your George Ross is the same family as the Rostrevor Rosses, they don’t sound like like the Tain or Balnogowan Rosses.

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http://www.bagenalscastle.com/documents/Major-General%20Robert%20Ro...

Robert Ross was born in 1766 in Ross-Trevor (now Rostrevor), County Down. The Ross family were of Scottish descent but was socially and politically Anglo- Irish. Robert’s father was Major David Ross, who had distinguished himself in the Seven Years’ War (1756-63). His mother was the half-sister of the Earl of Charlemont, one of the leading Irish politicians of the second half of the eighteenth century. Robert Ross, David‘s brother and Robert’s uncle, was a long-serving member of the Irish Parliament, representing Carlingford between 1768 and 1776 and Newry between 1776 and 1799. The MP’s father and grandfather had also both served in the Irish Parliament.6

Oh my goodness. This is the George Ross line .. ??

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LT63-ZSH/robert-ross-1665-1750

The Life Summary of Robert

When Robert Ross was born in 1665, in Bangor, County Down, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom, his father, George Ross, was 46 and his mother, Ursula Hamilton, was 29. He married Anne King on 21 May 1700, in St Werburgh's, County Dublin, Ireland. They were the parents of at least 2 sons and 2 daughters. He died in 1750, in County Down, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom, at the age of 85.

Do you see the book? Real source.

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LT63-ZSH/robert-ross-1665-175...

When Archbishop William King is released from prison after the Battle of Boyne, he went to lodge with Robert King. He was much attached to Robert and Marion Hamill King on Skinnerʼs Row, Dublin, Ireland. He writes Marion Hamill King was from a family in Roughwood, Aryshire, Scotland. He remember Mrs. King well. William leases land to Robert: Derry-- Ballyboggen & Ballylast in Donegal. (Both Ballyboggen and Ballylast were left to Marion Hamill King his wife in his will) He also leases him Lissenhall, Swords which he used as a Country Seat. Ann their eldest daughter Anne King was married in 1700 to Robert Ross.

Cathleen Ross - I’m excited about this connection, really well done.

And I’m even more convinced this is not the Balnagowan line. Because politics. They’re successful, well connected, political, rich, savvy, sophisticated, did I say rich? This not what I see in Rossiana.

I was off a generation so deleted an earlier message.

Trying again.

1. (we don’t know)
2. George Ross & Ursula Hamilton parents of
3. Robert Ross & Anne King parents of
4. Robert Ross, M.P. & Jane Mathews parents of
5. Maj. David Ross, esq. of Rosstrevor & Elizabeth Adderley parents of
6. Robert Ross, Major-General (UK), Destroyed U.S. Capitol Complex - War of 1812 & "Eliza" Elizabeth Catherine Glasscock

Have you tried County Down genealogy resources?

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/DOW

I think there should be ideas about this families origins at Rostrover.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/features/rooted-in-history-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilbroney_Park I think this is the Mayor using his father in laws money to build The Lodge. That Robert King was not only a Member of Parliament, he was closely related to Archbishop King.

They mist have been prominent enough in Scotland also, because that’s not an arriviste marriage. See the Park.

Re: According to my mother, the Rosses were a well-connected gentry family …

Yes, that is more than shown by biography. So people have gotten nowhere by barking up the Balgowan tree.

Look at the collateral families. Follow the property. Ask at Rosstrover.

Started new discussion to focus on Swedish & Finnish Rosses from Scotland.

https://www.geni.com/discussions/239021?msg=1511647