Capt Morgan Bryan - Merge with correct MP

Started by Tery Kempf on Thursday, November 28, 2019
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11/28/2019 at 11:43 AM

Erica Howton can these be connected correctly thanks
So I can finish lines..

11/28/2019 at 12:29 PM

Merging done.

11/28/2019 at 12:34 PM

I’m confused about this profile:

https://www.geni.com/people/Elizabeth-Dawson/600000005118861682

There’s notes saying:

This first wife CANNOT be Elizabeth Bryan, as Craven County deeds and wills prove "without question" that she married FRANCIS Dawson.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NCGREENE/2004-03/1079... (Dead link)

That Elizabeth Bryant is shown here:

https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/William-Bryan/p22127

Very different dates.

11/28/2019 at 12:37 PM

I also see a comment on the FamilySearch tree:

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-40001-751116327/elizabet...

PLEASE NOTE: There is NO record of the name of the first wife of Joseph Dawson. Not even her given name of Elizabeth. ANY surname found on Ancestry is pure fantasy.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:9NHJ-JPR

11/28/2019 at 6:43 PM

Dawson is my direct line. I will double check according to family bible. Thanks

11/28/2019 at 10:14 PM

Will of Joseph Dawson: Will probated 1784 in Wayne Co. NC. Children named in will: William, Isaac, Joel, Thomas, Grace Hinds, Esther Prescoat, Rachel Parsons, Lany Dawson, Mary Aldredge, Sarah Waterer, Rebekah Smith, Selah Waterer and Son Jesse by last wife Patience who was nee Pike but married Isaac Scriven first.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:LZDS-WPB

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Wikitree has the full text of the Will, and calls the first wife “Elizabeth Frances Ryan, daughter of William Ryan & Ann Bryant”.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ryan-2996

Which Dawson child are you from?

11/28/2019 at 10:16 PM
11/28/2019 at 11:02 PM

This fellow is JOHN Dawson (son of Henry, husband of Elizabeth Thomas) John Dawson

He picked up JOSEPH Dawson’s dates, which cant be right.

I don’t know who John’s children are.

11/28/2019 at 11:28 PM

So is William Dawson son of John (of Henry) or of Joseph (of controversial parentage)?

There is a William named in Joseph’s Will:

Children of Joseph Dawson and Elizabeth are: [1]

William Dawson, d. Abt. 1803.

From Joseph’s 1783 will:

Item, I give to my son William Dawson my Great Bible besides what I have heretofore given him to him and his heirs forever

This William is shown as the husband of Mary Wilson .

However he can’t be both the son of John & Joseph who seem unrelated.

11/28/2019 at 11:32 PM

http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/pamlico/wills/dawson

Martha Dawson 1778
Petition by William Dawson stating he married Martha Wilson, daughter of Charity Wilson. Petitions on his wife’s behalf for her share of Charity Wilson’s estate. July court 1778.

11/28/2019 at 11:46 PM

And a comment from https://www.geni.com/discussions/170300?msg=1161273

“Mom studied this 30 years ago; aunt studied in in last 10. It's a Henry Dawson line, the Capt Henry who built a Mingo Church, married Anna Carter. See profile picture. It's from the Independence County History mentioning Dr Burrell Dawson's line back to the Mingo Church Cap Henry Dawson. Anna Carter was Ocaneechi.”

11/30/2019 at 6:09 PM

My line - maternal grandfather John W Dawson.. William Alvin Dawson...Capt William A Dawson ... Doc Burrell Dawson... Joseph Dawson Sr... William Thomas Dawson... Joseph Dawson ... John Dawson... Johannes Dawson (England)

Spouses in same order-
Maternal grandmother Ruby Cooley... Emma Ellen Stroud... Louvina Jane Cason... Edith Bryant Folsom... Sarah Sally Mooring...Martha A Wilson...Elizabeth F Bryant... Patience Pike... Annam Keenliside (England)

That is all I have listed in family bible And some dates on a few

11/30/2019 at 6:44 PM

So we’re “stuck” here:

From https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/e/c/M-E-Beck/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0624....

William Dawson (son of Joseph Dawson and Patience Pike) died Abt. 1803.He married Martha Wilson, daughter of William Wilson and Charity.

William Dawson

Except his mother could have been Patience Pike, she was a much later 2nd wife.

Joseph Dawson’s 1st wife is totally unknown. Not a Morgan.

And you have the other Ancestry as noted currently on Geni; that one is your call, because all I know is what I see on this site.

11/30/2019 at 7:09 PM

I will get with my cousin again. She has records. But I looked at geni lines and I have no idea on Henry Dawson. He should maybe be an uncle. But things can be changed with this program.

Thank you for helping

12/1/2019 at 5:57 PM

Ok Joseph Dawson is married to Patience Pike - I must have misunderstood my cousin when we talked-

I have attached the Will to Joseph Dawson on Geni.
So my line stops at Joseph and Patience.

There is no definitive connection on Elizabeth Bryan -
That is an unknown marriage as of now..

So if kids can be added and link me back to William Dawson(child) and (spouse) Martha Wilson of Joseph and Patience

Thank you for all your help

12/2/2019 at 12:25 PM

Moved William Dawson to son of Joseph Dawson & his unknown 1st wife. Joseph did not marry Patience until 1773 or so.

12/2/2019 at 7:43 PM

You are correct. Thank you

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