Magalit Margola Jaffe-Margaliot (Lieberman) - Sources from Jaffe-Margaliot to Rabbi Gershom

Similiar discussion going on here: https://www.geni.com/discussions/203413

Britton Wesley Lyon LaRoche not really similar at all. Let's focus on this particular area of the tree please.

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1) and Malka Mysels tagging you in case you have anything to add.

I believe the source for this line is the Eger Family Asssociation, which I do not have. https://www.worldcat.org/title/agudat-mishpahat-eger-1913-1990-the-...

Tagging the profiles where I am seeking some documentation.

Margala Jaffe
Rabbi Shlomo Habarzel Lieberman, of Eisenstadt
Rabbi Yehuda Lieberman, of Eisenstadt
Harav Mordechai
Harav Shlomo MiBrezla
Harav Mordechai MiKolina
Wife of Rashbat
Unnamed daughter bat Eliezer
Rabbi Eliezer ben Rabbenu Gershom

Private User, Nathan Rosenshein, Margala Jaffe, could you please cite the sources for these profiles? Are they credible?

Eger Family Asssociation- family book can be seen at the web of beit hatfuzot tel aviv

I could use some help finding it. I tried!

I think I found it at Center for Jewish History. Folder V at

http://digital.cjh.org:80/R/-?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id...

That last geni3 link seems to be personal to you Randy

Ok. I tried to upload it to Akiva Eger. https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000112921950922&

Maybe this will work. https://media.geni.com/p13/86/75/d1/f7/5344485037043aca/eger_origin...

Wow!!!!

Randy Schoenberg
many thanks,
When i was told that I am a descendant of the Eiger family, I did not understand how, now I understand
But I have to go over the information a lot
One question: Do all people in the different tables have profiles in geni??

i put all the people that appear in the Eger family book Hebrew and English version onto Geni.

Following this thread.

Folder III on the CJH document appears to be solid genealogical work, and it clearly indicates some linkages that are solely traditional.

Private User, but does it say where exactly the information came from before the Eger book? Or just a list of names on the upper parts of the tree? "Tradition" seems a bit far-fetched.

From a quick look (I did not have time to go over all the information), I saw that the Eiger family and me There are indeed many great grandparents in common, but, I have no great grandparents from the Eiger family.(I write with reservations, because I have so far been investigating my grandmother's family, now I move to my grandfather's side, and i asked Naftali Wakstein for help in connecting my grandfather to the general tree - I know to who he is offspring, but I do not know how to connect him).

I have the book not the "list" and it was given to me by Akiva Eger from Nezer Sireni Israel- who is dead
He did the search and I do not know from where his info is.

Looks like most of it at the top is just made up and invented. If there are no real sources, we should probably treat it as just a fantasy-tree and delete the deep line unless we can find some corroboration.

Hi Randy Schoenberg, Thank you so much for the alert tag to this discussion, as well as your extraordinary kindness in searching out and providing a link for all of us to the venerable Eger Family Collection.

Re the profiles that you mention that need some sourcing, perhaps Rabbi Shalom Flam’s son, Private User and Nathan Rosenshein can provide help as they are listed as managers on the following profiles:

1. Magalit Margola Jaffe-Margaliot
2. Harav Yehuda Leiberman MiPressburg
3. Harav Mordechai MiKolina

https://www.geni.com/people/מנחם-משה-פלאם/388395149740012505
Nathan Rosenshein

4. Harav Mordechai
5. Harav Shlomo MiBrezla
6. Wife of Rashbat

https://www.geni.com/people/מנחם-משה-פלאם/388395149740012505

Dear All,
I also wish to thank Randy for his tremendous dedication to Jewish genealogy and for always being willing to help with related issues and Geni issues!!! As for the matter at hand, namely documentation, I admit that I have added myself as co-manager on some of these profiles, but unfortunately, I have no information to either authenticate or to disprove these connections. Some of them do seem questionable, as the trees tend to get less reliable as you go back earlier than, say, 1700, but who knows? Sorry I cannot be more helpful. Best regards to all. Nathan.

Shlomo Flam, we need you to explain where you got some of these profiles.

Netanel Isaiah Frisch, please help add sources to the profiles discussed here.

Meir Wunder Elef Margoliot seems to have some information on this line. I will try to upload screenshots to each profile. If the Hebrew speakers could help with adding/translating sources on each of the profiles, that would be very useful.

https://tablet.otzar.org/he/book/book.php?book=105732&width=0&a...

I started a new project https://www.geni.com/projects/Meir-Wunder-s-Elef-Margoliot/57722

Randy Schoenberg
I would be very happy if you explain / clarify to me about the new project you have set up:
elef-margoliot
Many of my great-grandparents appear in the book.
what should I do? Join the project and add my great-grandparents in the project?

many thanks

You can get a good overview of what we have and what needs to be done by looking at this descendant chart https://www.geni.com/list/descendants/6000000015797728437#15 (easy to expand or contract by just adjusting the generations on display).

When you hover over a profile in the descendant chart you will get a pop-up of the profile. If there is no profile photo, it usually means we don't yet have a source. So please everyone feel free to dig in and help add sources to this very deep tree.

Haim Wartski, HaCohen I think what we should do is use Wunder's numbers and just list all of the profiles with their number, so people can easily find them.

Randy Schoenberg

It looks like the earliest ancestors of Rashi now are the Kalonymides of Lucca, for which there's historical basis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalonymos_family

What other connections were chopped? I don't see the most of the iffy Babylon-to-Spain or France profiles any more.

There's still some sketchy connections on "Isaac the Jew", Charlemagne's Diplomat though. I don't know of any sources that name his parents at all.

Private User I don't think I have done anything with Rashi. I think I haven't chopped anything recently, except for the spurious Maharal ancestry. I rearranged and merged some profiles in the Margoliot tree to conform with Meir Wunder's work. Feel free to attack any other spurious connections. It's a thankless and never-ending job.