James (Bass) Basse - James Bass (1710 - 1771) cleanup

You broke it: Edward Bass, Sr. is your first cousin 10 times removed's husband's second cousin.
You
→ Freddie Ralph Hicks, Sr
your father → Arvel Yewell Hicks
his father → Theodore Hicks
his father → William J Hicks, Survived Andersonville Prison
his father → Adry Hicks
his father → Joseph Hicks, Sr.
his father → John B. Hicks
his father → Littleberry "Berry" Hicks
his father → Daniel Hicks
his father → Elizabeth Hicks
his mother → Joshua Jordan, of Nansemond
her father → James Jordan
his brother → Elizabeth Knight
his daughter → John Knight, I
her husband → Capt. William Peter Knight
his father → Genevieve Basse, (twin)
his mother → John Basse "The Immigrant"
her brother → William Basse, Sr., “elder”
his son → Edward Bass, Sr.
his son
I am a DNA proven descendant.

I do not know why a NEW discussion was started...I did request someone LOOK AT the TWO Lovewell Harris wives of Edward Basse. Next thing you know I am in cousin mode but I know it takes time so I will be patient.

James BASSE (1710 - 1771) 8th great-grandfather
Benjamin BASS (1736 - 1798)
Anne BASS (1773 - 1854)
William BATY (1770 - 1823)
Malinda BATY (1813 - 1880)
William Sampson HUDDLESTON (1828 - 1890)
Nancy Jane HUDDLESTON (1852 - 1926)
George W PRATT (1875 - 1947)
Ossie Mae PRATT (1917 - 1999)
Geneive Melba EMERSON (1938 - 2014)
Cynthia Viola Mae Hicks

As you may or may NOT know, I DEPEND on Geni to get it right but I trust the DNA over the paper trails....Following.

1710 James is "mine".

Bottom of page for DNA; my comparison HERE on Geni: Jeanne Gayle Brewer is your 10th cousin.
You
→ Geneive Melba Emerson
your mother → Ossie Mae Pratt
her mother → George W Pratt
her father → Nancy Jane Pratt
his mother → Eliza C Huddleston
her mother → Nimrod Brewer
her father → Howell Nimrod Brewer, Jr
his father → Howell Brewer, Jr.
his father → Howell Brewer, Sr.
his father → Sarah Brewer
his mother → John Lanier, II
her father → John Lanier, III
his son → Mary Ann Bass / Basse
his daughter → Sarah Malone
her daughter → Martha Lanier, "Patsy"
her daughter → George Malone Lanier, Sr.
her son → James Marion Lanier
his son → William Bradford Lanier
his son → Emma Georgia Petty
his daughter → Arthur Edward Petty
her son → Rosalynne Petty
his daughter → Jeanne Gayle Brewer
her daughter

Amy Nordahl Cote Need your help on this - you’re the Bass expert.

Also summoning Angus Wood-Salomon

ty....holding my breath and sending you my support and positive vibes lol

You need to supply source data, that would be more useful.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 I am entirely confused by your points. I do not see you a Bass or a Basse directly.

This is the French Huguenot line, nothing to do with the Nansemond line (I don’t think) - but that’s what you are pointing to as 10th cousin

Captain Nathaniel Basse

So what Bass person is direct to you? Not cousin - direct.

Ok your most recent Bass, who you just entered into Geni, is Ann Batey

Next step is for “you” to add evidence for parents into her profile & theirs. It would also be helpful to enter her siblings if any into Geni.

Scratch that - I just merged your tree into my cousin Private User tree. Maybe she has some thoughts / answers to your questions.

What I can say so far is my “guess” is this is a Basse line not Nansemond Bass. But I don’t know - Sources needed and interpreted. There should be plenty.

Mary Ann Bass is your 8th great grandmother.
You
→ Geneive Melba Emerson
your mother → Ossie Mae Pratt
her mother → George W Pratt
her father → Nancy Jane Pratt
his mother → William Sampson Huddleston
her father → Malinda Huddleston Goodwin
his mother → William Baty
her father → Ann Baty
his mother → Benjamin Bass
her father → Mary Ann Bass
his mother

I am not going to assist in this area any more, then.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000082237951976 Do not match

Managers

Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

Faustine Darsey on hiatus

What does "Do not match managers" mean?

Parent conflict on Capt. William Batey

I am undoing the merge

DAR Ancestor http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/?action=full...

Two wives:

Mary Betty
Anne Bass

Descendants listed:

Nancy, William, Martha, Christopher, Sally, Benjamin, Louisa, Nancy

Oh wow...some drama since I posted!

The Bass(e) tree is so difficult, because there are individuals with a paper trail and yet mis-matched DNA--for example, William Basse 1654, father of Edward Bass 1672, has a solid paper trail to John Basse 1616 and Elizabeth of the Nansemond--John Basse even recorded William's birth in his prayer book in his own hand, yet it appears from the YDNA that William doesn't match his father John, since we have YDNA from two of William's sons (A1a-M31) and it doesn't match the DNA from William's brother and uncle (R1b-L47). The thinking among many of my cousins is that Elizabeth is William's mother and John is not the father. Some think different sexual mores among the Nansemond had something to do with it. We can't exactly go back and ask John and Elizabeth what happened.

We're pretty sure of John's haplogroup (R1b-L47), because we have the descendants of his son Richard and his brother William Basse b. 1618, and they match. The John 1616--Richard 1658 line is Nansemond, and the William Basse 1618 line is not, but they are still the same family, connected in the male line. The descendants of Richard's second wife Mary Burwell are yet another haplogroup (R1b-L21), for reasons no one understands yet (no one can agree on whether she was really his wife or not, but they have been part of the family for a very long time).. Another line of Basses, descended from Richard's descendant Tabitha Bass, has yet a fourth haplogroup (I2b1), because they are descended from a Bass woman who was unmarried.

Four YDNA haplogroup lines in just a few generations of one family.

So....we need to be very slow to disconnect folks in this family, and take a long time to discuss each change, when it comes to Basses. Bass genealogy is very difficult to sort out...there are so many NPEs in this family.

We're also fiercely proud of our ancestry, which makes these discussions a lot more dramatic

Does Edward 1672 still have his original wife Lovewell? No matter what, Lovewell belongs with Edward.

I should have mentioned before (I'm sorry I didn't!) that Edward and Lovewell DID HAVE A SON JAMES. We know that from Edward's will. But beyond that things are too muddled to sort out easily..which James is which? I looked at everything I could find a few years ago...and ended up just leaving notes on the profiles and leaving things as they were, as the safest option. Sometimes the best you can do is put a pin in it until you have more to go on.

I would leave James with Edward and Lovewell, with the caveat that YDNA has called the line into question, and leaving the notes about the likelihood of more than one James, whose families have been mixed up.

With a plea that Bass male descendants please participate in the DNA project if they can!

I think they only thing that really needed to be done for the time and per the request, was merge the two Lovewell Harris.
Also I think it becomes very confusing when there are several discussions about the same thing but in different threads lol.
When one calls oneself the Disconnectress, it gives one pause. I would love to see Lloyd or Angus work on these lines because I see they already have and think they may be connected as well.
Also, when the curator questions one’s request for assistance BASED on perceived ancestry, the curator is obviously biased.

https://www.geni.com/discussions/191890

I am connected through James who married Mary Lanier. He needs to be added back please.

Here's some really good information from Kianga Lucas on the Bass/Basse lines.

https://nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/the-nansemond-...

https://nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/2016/09/30/is-jesse-chavi...

https://nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/author/kiangalucas/

https://descendantsofthegreatdismal.com/

https://archive.org/details/bassfamiliesofso00bell

http://freeafricanamericans.com/bailey-berry.htm

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/tests/CD025A8A-4C40-4BB0-BB88-036F3440...

And I would appreciate if someone would correct what has been done now to THIS line.

William Baty and Ann Bass. I added and merged Ann because you disconnected her when you disconnected James.

Right now I am practically not even related to MYSELF 🤔🙄

Ann Beatty is your third cousin 7 times removed's 2nd wife.
You
→ Freddie Ralph Hicks, Sr
your father → Viola Isabel Hicks
his mother → John Thomas Edgar Webber
her father → John Richard Carter Webber
his father → Samuel Webber
his father → Seth Ward Webber
his father → Tahphenes Webber
his mother → Richard Ward
her father → Ann Blackman
his mother → Ann Moody
her mother → Mary Batte
her sister → William Batte
her son → Thomas Batte
his son → Captain William Batey
his son → Ann Beatty
his wife
If you will recuse yourself, I prefer to add my line back. I do not wish to engage in a Geni war. DNA says these are my grandparents.

I have ten pages of BASS matches on Ancestry.
You did a major "cut and run" and left the clean-up to others.

Cynthia, at this point -- since you've already asked for another curator to recuse herself and have said you've filed CS reports -- I think it's probably best to leave the matter alone for now and wait to communicate with CS after the weekend. It's very difficult for any of the rest of us to assist you when we know it's an area of contention.