Nicholas White - Parents of Nicholas White, Sr.

1902 genealogy by the Descendants of Nicholas White Association

http://www.archive.org/stream/nicholaswhitefam03loth#page/n7/mode/2up

The wording is slightly different from https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2012/3/82959611_132572013993.jpg but neither claim origins.

This is the image file at archive.org

https://archive.org/stream/nicholaswhitefa00lothgoog#page/n11/mode/1up

The Nicholas White family : 1643-1900
Author
Lothrop, Thomas J. (Thomas Jackson), 1834-1908

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lahope&id...

There is a Nicholas White genealogy online.
http://genweb.net/~blackwell/ma/WhiteNicholas/
It's all there. Wills, descendants, collateral lines, etc.
Mehitable Morey is mentioned on page 34. I found the ancestors of Ursula, (Thomas, Nicholas2, Nicholas1).

This is an interesting note / research item:

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lahope&id...

'The entry is very important, not only because of the appearence of John Robinson and his wife with Brewster and Wm. Jepson as witnesses, but because it shows that a branch of the White family were located at Beauvale near Greasly in Nottinghamshire. Dexter reads wrongly Bevel as Beverly in Yorkshire, which is not very far away. The identification of Beauvale explains why John Robinson and Bridget White were married at Greasly, as the Greasly parish records show. They were married from the house of Bridget White's sister. This branch of the family probably occupied the Beauvale manor farm. The identification is due to Mr. Burgess.'

The Dexters have given Niclaes de Witte the English name Nicholas White, remarking "possibly brother, or other relation, of Jane and the others. No other mention of him is known." Subseqent writers have also seen in him a Nicholas White. On the contrary, numerous further references are known, all giving his name as de Witte and placing him in a purely Dutch context. It is therefore uncertain that he was an Englishman named White. Why Jane White chose him as her guardian if he was not related to her is obscure. (417-18)

Could these Whites be related to Walter?

Adding more links that give a “social picture” of him:

https://books.google.com/books?id=S2YGAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA175&ot...

Genealogical sketches of the Woodbury family its intermarriages and connections By C.L. Woodbury Page 175

https://books.google.com/books?id=iqsvAQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA120&ot...

History of Taunton, Massachusetts: From Its Settlement to the Present Time By Samuel Hopkins Emery


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This reference equates him with a Nicholas White in Accomac VA

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/v/o/g/Kenneth-L-Vogt-NY/WEBSITE-0001/...

The first account of Nicholas White in New England is 10 May 1643 when he first took the Freeman's oath at Dorchester, MA (NEHGR) Vol 3, p 190). It is believed he is the same Nicholas White who, was in Accomac Co., Virginia in 1634 and who lef a will stating that he was going to New England. (see below)

The will of Nicholas White of Accomac County, Virginia is preserved in the first will books of that County. It appears between the entries of 29 December 1639 and February 1639/40:
"In the name of god Amen the ninteenth day of () (I) Nicholas White of Accamcke in Vergina
beinge () this present bound a voyage for New England and bles(sed be god beinge) well
in boddie and mind and memorye doe make a(nd) ordayne this to be) my last will and
testament in manner and for/me fo(llowing that is) to say, First I commend my soule into the
hands (of my) maker hopinge assuardlie through the onelie meritt of (Jesus) Christ my Savior
to bee partaker of liffe everlas(tinge) and I commend my bodye to the Earth whereof it is made
(in hope) of a joyfull resurrection.
Item I give and bequeath (unto) Susan Grace five hunddred pounds of tobacco and a sowe shotte which is now in possesion of Thomas Dimmer.
Item I give and bequeath after my decease all the rest of my estate debts and legacies being paid unto my Uncle Samuell White living at Blacke Wall in London and if in case the said Samuell dye then the said estate to be equallyedevided betwixt the said Susan and Alexander Wignall, and I doe make the said Alexander Superviser of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto sett my hand and seale the daye and the yere above written.
Sealed and delivered in the presencof
Thomas Dymmer his markeNICHOLAS WHITE
John Fittsgarrell (his) marke"
Other references to the Nicholas White of Va. can be found in Colonial Records of Virginia; Virginia Colony - County Court Records - County Records - Northhampton - Ames; Ye Kingdom of Accawmacke - Wise, and other publications.

That the Nicholas White of Accomac is the same who appeared in Dorchester, MA. as Freeman in 1643 is borne out by the fact that only one other Nicholas White has been found in New England at that time, the Nicholas who resided at Casco Bay (Cape) Anne). He is documented through the Trelawney papers and is not the Nicholas of Dorchester.

Notes on Block Islanders of the Seventeenth Century - Block Is. Hist. Soc. states that Nicholas White of Taunton was one of the early land grantees there. There is no evidence that he stayed for more then a short period there.

from https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/a/l/c/Helen-Alcott-IN/WEBSITE-0001/UH...
I find this:
Nicholas was listed in the book, Passengers of the Mary & John 1620-1643, Volume 14, page 71. Worth states he came by 1643.

Do you have access to that book? Did the Mary & John go to VA? The VA connection is interesting.

I have read some things about the founding of Taunton, since a number of my ancestors were involved in the purchase and founding and/or were early settlers
(ignore the numbers - those are my index to the trees I have them on - I did a copy/paste):
Briggs, Ann Agnes Thayer 43
Briggs, John 43
Briggs, Richard 43
Deane, Eleanor Strong 44
Deane, Walter 44
Hoskins, Ann Hinds 43
Hoskins, William 43
Leonard, James 41
Leonard, Major Thomas 41
Leonard, Mary Martin 41
Richmond, Col. John 52
Richmond, Elizabeth Nicholas 52
White, Nicholas 44
White, Susanna Foster 44
Gilbert, Joan Combe 44
Gilbert, John 44
Gilbert, Thomas 44
Williams, Frances Dighton 44
Williams, Richard 44

How Puritan were the other Taunton people? Because they chased the Puritans out of VA right quick; so I’m having trouble reconciling a tobacco farmer or trader on the isolated Eastern Shore with a town big shot & entrepreneur. I’m pretty sure the Taunton Iron works were organized by the Winthrop’s? That speaks to hobnobbing in top circles.

I’d sooner think of the Notts / Yorkshire guy, who was in Leiden with the top dissenter, Rev. John Robinson.

http://www.maryandjohn1630.com/books.html Doesn’t look like Vol 14 is in print.

But Vol 14 was part of “the Dorchester Group”

From http://www.maryandjohn1630.com/passengerlist.html

They came from either the English counties of Dorset, Somerset, Devon or maybe Wiltshire, particularly from the areas in and around Dorchester and Bridport, Dorset, Crewkerne and Taunton, Somerset or Exeter, Devon.
Passengers moved to Windsor, CT between 1635 and 1640, as supposedly two-thirds of the passengers did.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~michaelcaldwell/genealogy/Filing%20C...

By the way, early Dorchester records burned up in the town clerk’s son in law’s barn in 1657.

Well, interesting. There was an Alexander "John" Wignall in New England (mentioned in the Accomac man’s will) with a London origin and a Foster daughter.

But -

http://espl-genealogy.org/MilesFiles/site/p677.htm#i67621

Nicholas died before 29 December 1639 at Northampton Co, VA. It was on this date that his will was probated..1
Citations
[S497] James Handley Marshall, Northampton Co, VA, Abstracts of Wills & Administrations, 1632-1802, p. 4 (will of Nichols White).

This is all the Miles Files has on Alexander Wignall

http://espl-genealogy.org/MilesFiles/site/p838.htm#i83709

1. The Taunton Iron Works was started by the Leonards. A quick google search brought me to this - https://www.revolvy.com/page/Taunton-Iron-Works. John Winthrop Jr. went to England to find experienced ironworkers to start the one in Saugus (Lynn), one of whom was my ancestor John Vinton.

2. So it looks like Nicholas White was not on the Mary & John in 1630.

3. Who was the NIcholas White 1600-1639? Can't be our guy (1618-1697). I guess that explains the speculation that our Nicholas came first to VA? My gut feeling was that that couldn't be true.

4. But then there's the Wignall connection in the VA will. Here's my 9th gg - Alexander "John" Wignall. The Geni profile shows no wife Susan, as mentioned in the will, nor a daughter or sister. So was the Wignall in the will some other AW? The one in the will was b c 1600, and my guy was born c 1580

5. Re: the Foster connection - Wignall's daughter Judith married Reginald 'Renold' Foster, of Ipswich. His relationship to Nich. White's wife Susanna Foster, according to what Geni has, is as follows:
Reginald 'Renold' Foster, of Ipswich is Susanna (Foster) White's third great granddaughter's husband's fourth great grandfather. So it doesn't look like our Nicholas is very closely connected to Foster/Wignall of Ipswich (unless there are connections missing from Geni). Conclusion is that the will is 2 other people. What do you think?

Yes, a name coincidence.