Alice de Savoie - Inconsistencies

Started by Sharon Doubell on Saturday, November 10, 2018
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11/10/2018 at 12:50 AM

SmartCopyConsistency Check: Alice de Savoie born before the birth of her father Humbert II le Renforcé, comte de Savoie.Alice de Savoie born before the birth of her mother Gisèle (Gille) de Bourgogne.

11/27/2018 at 12:49 PM

Sharon - you are right. That is because several months ago her parents were changed incorrectly. Her actual parents are: PIERRE I Comte de Savoie & his wife Agnès de Poitou.

I sent a message to all the managers pointing this out, including documentation from Medlands (see my message below), but none of them responded. I followed up with Jason Wills and he said he had 1000 messages and can't get to them all.

Could you help in restoring her correct parents?

Sincerely,
Bernard Albanese

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Managers of Alice de Savoie,
I am contacting you about this profile: Alix de Savoie
I believe that Alice's parents are incorrect.
Firstly: If you read the Medlands article (http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#HumbertIIdied1103B)
for her supposed father,
https://www.geni.com/people/Humbert-II-le-Renforcé-comte-de-Savoie/...
there is no Alice listed.
Secondly: If you read the Medlands article relating to her husband, https://www.geni.com/people/Bonifacio-del-Vasto-Marchese-del-Vasto-...
it clearly states that her parents are:
m firstly ALIX de Savoie, daughter of PIERRE I Comte de Savoie & his wife Agnès de Poitou.
Thirdly; if you read the Medlands article related to https://www.geni.com/people/Pierre-I-comte-de-Savoie/60000000004373...
it clearly lists Alix as his daughter and the future wife of Bonifacio del Vasto.
I realize I may be mistaken. But Medlands is used as an authority for these other three profiles, but not for hers. It seems inconsistent.
Sincerely,
Bernard Albanese
Alice de Savoie

11/28/2018 at 8:09 AM

Alice was a GGM, but her child was disconnected in October

11/28/2018 at 10:27 AM
11/28/2018 at 10:29 AM

It certainly seems to me that the Medlands article is proof enough.

11/28/2018 at 6:33 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a GGM?

11/28/2018 at 7:30 PM

Great grandmother

11/28/2018 at 8:19 PM

That is because her husband

Bonifacio "del Vasto", marchese di Savona e della Liguria Occidentale

had two wives (Alice was the first). according to Medlands Bonifacio had 12 children, and at least the first 5 were with Alice. (see details I posted in Bonifacio's "About" section)

Someone has removed those children from Alice and moved them to Bonifacio's second wife, Agnes.

11/28/2018 at 8:21 PM

How can we get these mistakes reversed to where they were originally?

11/28/2018 at 10:14 PM

Bernard, I'll give Jason a chance to respond, but otherwise I'll come back here over the weekend - when I have a sustained period of time, and fix it for you.

If you keep posting the links and documentation, that will help me a lot.

11/28/2018 at 11:01 PM

I changed her parents. You will need to identify what children need adding and changing

11/29/2018 at 7:17 PM

Jason;

Thank you for fixing Alice's parents.

She and her husband, Bonifazio had at least 5 children.

Their 3rd child was Manfredo: found here with the wrong mother:

;Manfredo I del Vasto, marchese di Saluzzo

Their 5th child was Guglielmo (i.e. William) found here with the wrong mother:

Guglielmo, marchese di Busca

I could not easily find their other 3 children, perhaps they were never entered into GENI. I will continue looking, if I find anything more I will let you know

Thanks again.

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