John Bridges - Bridge father and son??

I assume you saw this -
Prudence Morrison

I don't see Thomas Bell of Roxbury on Geni, just Thomas Bell of Boston. I would think someone like him would be on Geni.

Incidentally, Prudence Heath's parents are my 11th great grandparents. I'm descended from their daughter Mary Heath Johnson and her husband Capt. John Johnson. I have a bunch of Roxbury/Woodstock (direct) ancestors.

No, no one made the Thomas Bell of
Roxbury family. They went English is the reason, I think. I pulled up Katherine Meakins to start them. :(.

Cleaned up Edward Morrison, III but he’s missing kids.

I don’t think there’s a relationship between the Edward Morrison family and the Thomas Morris family, and that this was a mistaken identification by the older compiler. The “modern” compilers seem comfortable with Richardson’s 1992 study.

So I'm trying to figure out where Katherine Meakins fits in to this, based on https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Katherine_Greene_%281%29.
“Thomas Makins, my sister’s son, in New England” is mentioned in the will of Thomas Bell. ...
"So possibly this reference is to Sarah, the wife of Katherine's son Thomas, and their son Thomas."

" the will also refers to "the other child of my said sister, whose name I remember not"

So (based on the will) we're looking for a sister of Thomas Bell who had a son Thomas Makins in New England and another son whose name he "remembers not", as well as a husband Thomas, based on based on the quote from the Bell's Bequest link, "Thomas Bell followed his sister Katherine Meakins to the new world. She and her husband Thomas immigrated with John Cotton in 1633 as servants to Edmund Quincy"

So are we going with that - Katherine b 1584-1590 who was a servant is sister of Thomas Bell b. 1606 and was a rich man?

Or are we to assume the Bequest article by Richard Heath is in error, and that perhaps the sister is Sarah (Beardsley) Meekins (b 1620), wife of Thomas (Katherine's son) and mother of Thomas (b. 1643)? Then the Beardsleys would be Thomas Bell's parents? Or she was really Sarah (Bell) Meekins?

I don't see how we can build the Thomas Bell of Roxbury family off of Katherine Meakins. (This gets complicated!!!)

Oh, super on the clean-up of Edward Morris (Morrison)! That makes a lot more sense!

I would use Geni’s “create a branch” (family menu) to make a stand-alone Thomas Bell of Roxbury family. If we can figure out the relationship to the sister children can always merge in. My suspicion though is that Grace Bett was a servant in that family & not necessarily related. That would fit quite well with Edward Morris having immigrated as a servant himself, & explains the fudge on Grace’s surname in the Roxbury record. BUT it puts us into clues for her origin area in England.

There’s a Maken here ... ?

Grace or Grissie Morris

http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:LVGZ-364

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XKZN-K62?from=lynx1UIV8...

Birth
1570
Colchester, Colchester, Essex, England, United Kingdom
Death
December 1697
Barking, Romford, Essex, England, United Kingdom

(Sourced)

OK - I can start creating a branch for Thomas Bell of Roxbury.

Good, because this other Morris family is not making sense. I’m running away from it.

Thomas Bell of Roxbury
Was there a source that gave the dates of birth of his children? I got the names from wife's findagrave entry.

Got a few from Savage

And from Roxbury VR.

So now we've gotten that set up, what do we do about Grace?

Oh, you suggested she might be a servant - with the name Bell?

I’m thinking Grace might have been a servant in the Bell household and that’s why she was called Bett / Bell? On her marriage record. And / or some other sort of relative (one doesn’t preclude the other). So what you want do is put links to Thomas Bell profile in Grace’s profile and vice versa, and now we go digging in England, and also Suffolk Deeds to see if there’s anything more on the Morris property in Roxbury.

A map suggesting it had originally been part of the Bell property would be amazing:). Not that I expect it.

Smoke

https://books.google.com/books?id=WZoiAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA39&ots...

A history of the Grammar School, or, "The free schoole of 1645 in Roxburie ... By Charles Knapp Dillaway Page 45

“[1674.] Page 44. "Memo. Novem. 10,1674. Disposed of the twenty pounds money received of Edward Morris by virtue of judgement granted against him on account of Mr. Bell's moveables—ten pounds to John Ruggles, six pounds to Jonathan Fairbanks, twelve shillings to the charge of Court, so there remains in Deac. Parks his hands three pounds eight shillings. Aug. 4, 1676."

The Great Migration Begins likes Katherine Meakins as sister of Thomas Bell. There’s also a brother Edward Bell and another sister, lots of relatives named in his will, in fact. No Grace, no Morris, no Edward.

I attached docs & this page probably gives the best view of his extended family

https://media.geni.com/p13/11/1b/de/82/5344484966a6ac69/6bf74318-50...

You attached page 237, and 240-242. What about pp 238 and 239? I'd just like to have the complete article if you don't mind.

Sure, I’ll bring it in. Got sidetracked by a Heath cleanup. I looked at my relationship and I was going through a “lady” in Yorkshire. Just ... no.

I think I've used all the info you've attached or otherwise sent me to create Thomas Bell's tree. I put in Katherine Bell Meakins and husband Thomas, though I don't know about merging her with Katherine Green Meakins.

http://www.ourgenerationsancestors.org/getperson.php?personID=I5031... For a good Sourced tree in Meakins / Greene

Yes, people are right - the dates don’t align for Katherine (Bell) Meakins living in 1572

The son http://www.ourgenerationsancestors.org/getperson.php?personID=I5021... maybe ?

(1672)

Thanks for uploading those pages! It filled in the rest of the will and a few other people.

I also uploaded the sketch for Elizabeth Cartwright

https://www.geni.com/profile/documents/6000000001540850546

Edward and Grace and their children mentioned.

Thanks. I read through it, but will compare with tree later. I'm realizing that "cousin" could mean niece, nephew, or something else, so I'm going to delete some of the people I added to Thomas Bell's tree and just make mention of them on his profile.

Check this out - https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&que...~

I happened to come across a "Bett or Bell" when I was looking at Bell trees, but didn't have time to get into it last night. Company coming today, so my time is limited.