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Private - dup compare screen went away so I can’t find the not! Theophilus Williams Anymore.

Private User - I’ve been struggling to make sense of Mary Pratt parentage and need other people to take a crack at it now.

She can’t possibly be Mary Gale daughter of Abraham baptized at Watertown in 1689. And I do not think that Mary is the one who married “Michael Pratt of Oxford.”

Michael can be an alternative name for Micah Pratt and he’s the man who married Mary Pratt in 1731. There could have been a 20 years older Michael Pratt, and therefore two same-name couples, but I don’t think that’s what happened here. I suspect the Bond genealogy book caused confusion instead.

See https://archive.org/details/genealogiesoffam00bond/page/228/mode/2up

10. Mary, bap. Ap. 1689 ; (?) m., Nov. 3, 1731. Michael Pratt, of O.vford.

(You really don’t see a first marriage at age 40 or more very often in this era)

At https://archive.org/details/genealogiesoffam00bond/page/230/mode/2up Bond shows as daughter of Richard Gale & Sarah Knights:

3. Mercy, b. Dec. 4, 1710; m., Dec. 26, 1749, Abraham Jones. [Jone.<;, 65.]

Geni has: Mercy Wheat

That birth is this record:

https://www.innsbruckprinting.com/family_history/showmedia.php?medi...

[5th down, top left.] December 4, 1710. “Mercy Gale, the daughter is Richard Gage & Sarah his wife was born December 4, 1710.”

Which clearly some sites are interpreting at Mercy = Mary. Bond, however, did not.

So - what to do?

For what it’s worth, at https://archive.org/details/galefamilyrecord1866gale/page/40/mode/2up “The marriages of these of the daughters, as given by "Bond's Genealogies of Watertown," are of doubtful identity, and we give them with a mark of doubt.”

On the other hand, Richard & Sarah Gale had “removed to Canterbury CT” in 1722, making it less likely their daughter Mercy (Mary?) was marrying in Watertown in 1731. And Ebenezer Gale went to Oxford.

So a possibility is that it was indeed the 1689 Mary Gale who married Micah … but he remarried, and the younger children had a different mother.

Can't be merged until it's unlocked and disconnected from the wrong set of parents. It's off by one generation.

Stephen Bradford Crane

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000008628520213?to=600000000...

Stephen Bradford Crane

Stephen Bradford Crane?through=6000000008628520213

https://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/?action=ful...

Private User Take a look and make sure I got everybody where they belong.

Thank you, Linda Zimmerman

The only thing now is I see no source for his marriage date (1752), which appears to be inaccurate (he would have been 14 years old).

https://www.geni.com/inconsistencies/for_profile/6000000008628520213

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7324297/stephen-crane

https://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_descendants/?ac...

The DAR has his birth in 1731 though, which would also fix his age upon marriage.

The dates are a little different on his official tombstone or memorial.

Erica Howton that was some good work figuring out Micha Pratt and Mary Pratt (Gale)! Thank you!

Private User - but Mary Pratt isn’t solved yet unfortunately. If the childrens birthdates are accurate - they look VR based - there’s no break to suggest a 1st wife death & subsequent remarriage,

And still didn’t look for “widow Gales” who could have been the wife of Micah Pratt in 1731.

I think we should go ahead and consider her “parents unidentified” and detached.

I’ll go ahead and detach her from any parents for now.

Common names! A Gen user is asking for help to correct the profile.
Can someone please lend a hand? UNmerges is probably the best request at this time
Daniel Bentley, Jr., of Fluvanna County

The paternal branch for famous author, William Faulkner, contains Private duplicates for both himself and his father, neither of which should be private, imho. The father was born 1870. The first link below is to his paternal grandfather.

John W.T. Falkner

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000002807233504?return=merge...

William Faulkner
Private

Murry Falkner
Murry Falkner

Two sisters with the same name, both living through adulthood.

Dorothy Kellogg I think she's the one who belongs in this tree. Find a Grave has a detailed bio, with sources. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/110709429/dorothy-kellogg

Dorothy Stoughton The FS tree attached as a confirmed match has her married to both Edward Kellog and Nathaniel Watson. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LRPN-KRR

Private User - Faulkners are done, except Private which requires manager or family group approval to complete.

I am contacting you about this profile: Mathias ‘the chandler’ Sension, Sr. His profile and his pedigree indicate his father was /Rt-Hon-Sir-Oliver-St-John-Esquire-of-Cayshoe/6000000016780969977 and his mother Sarah-St-John/6000000006444679950. The overview section of his profille states "Virkus states that Matthias was the son of Sir Oliver & Sarah Bulkley St. John, but he (Matthias) is not mentioned in the Last Will and Testament of Sir Oliver, so it is doubtfull that they are his parents."

Is this information reliable? Other souces indicate his parents are Christopher St. John and unnamed spouse,

Who are the correct parents?

Someone may want to take a look at this family group and the pending merge.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000009456772941?to=600000018...

Rice Price
Alexander Rice Price, Sr.

I see some serious problems with this pending merge that involves DAR profile, Abraham Thompson

One being the 25 siblings of the one on the right.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000076812302199?to=600000019...

John Thompson
DUP TREE DO NOT MERGE John Barton Thompson

It looks like potentially a good merge, with the shared siblings Ni-Go-Di-Ge-Yu Sti Yu Riley and Ni-Go-Di-Ge-Yu Sti Yu Riley , but idk. (Indian names are nearly impossible for me to decipher.)

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000010735573534?to=600000019...

Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu Riley
Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu Riley

A lot of similarities except for the wives don't seem to match and the son on the left, William Boerum was born many years before the births of his parents and about 50 years before his 'sister'.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000000240022418?to=600000019...

Simon Boerum
Simon Boerum

http://the-red-thread.net/genealogy/Sension-St.John.html - re: Mathias ‘the chandler’ Sension, Sr.

Indeed, parents as Rt. Hon. Sir Oliver St John, Esquire of Keysoe & Sarah St. John seem ruled out, and as of an article published in NEGHR (2013) his father was identified as Christopher Sension with some controversy about his mother Joan (first wife? Later wife? Welsh?)

The English family profiles need developing but the genealogy seems accepted.

Don’t merge Rice Price & Alexander Rice Price, Sr.

I had detached them previously.

John Thompson Duplicate tree isolated & sent for deleting.

Gu-Lu-Sti-Yu Riley - merging done.

Thank you, Erica. I endeavored to reduce my 'profiles followed by me' list down to no more than one page. Didn't get very far by myself, so really appreciating your help with clearing them up.

Detached time traveling William Boerum from parents and found parents for wife Annetje-Anetze Martense Schenck

So proceeding with merge of Simon Boerum

Thank you. Another case of wishful thinking?

Jefffey Gorton - it’s actually newish (2012) research, a great find, and interesting - the family had come from the Spanish Netherlands ro England. So I presume Huguenots originally from France. And, I think this was never thought of before.

St. John is a common enough name.

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