Alice Bradford (Morton) - Not Morton

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I have found a document that claims this woman's name is Hanson not Morton. Wish I knew how to add sources.

Dictionary of National Biography volumes 1-22, page 1,085
Found on Ancestry

Before you change anything, be aware that many generations continued with the same first names, and it is easy to get confused.

Did you see the media I posted? This is about her maiden name not first name.

I must have the wrong William

From the profile notes for this William Bradford

William Bradford's first wife was very probably Alice Morton, a sister of the Anthony Morton from whom he bought land and houses. According to the Browne Reference (see below), William Bradford (1533-1595) won these properties in a "fine" where Bradford was a "plaintiff" and Anthony Morton and his wife, Mary are "deforciants". The same article asserts that William Bradford's 1 st. wife was Alice Morton, sister of Anthony Morton, and that Anthony Morton was the grandfather of George Morton, the Plymouth Colonist. One of Anthony Morton's two sons was George Morton (the elder) who married Catherine Boun and had a son, the George Morton of Leyden and Plymouth, a member of the Seperatists, many of whom sailed to Plymouth on the Mayflower.

In other words, Alice Morton is a “most likely” but not completely confirmed.

One needs caution for a couple more reasons:

- There were a lot of William Bradford’s
- There are erroneous pedigrees in circular

DNB is a good source, if a link to the article can be found and posted, that would be helpful.

I’ve just sent this mail to profile managers of 1st wife of William ‘Alice’ Bradford

What is the (current) evidence supporting Alice as daughter of Robert Morton, Esq. & Alice Morton

From https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/112135/unproven-royal-ancestry-of-gove...

unproven royal ancestry of Governor William Bradford

WikiTree currently shows that William Bradford's grandmother was Alice Morton, whose ancestry ties in to the web of English aristocrats with royal and Magna Carta ancestry. This is apparently based on a SUGGESTION in NEHGR, per this website: http://www.treetreetree.org.uk/Bradford.htm, citing Hunt, J. G., "A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection," New England Historical and Genealogical Register 111, 1957, 68.

The NEHGR list of Mayflower passengers states that the More children are the only Mayflower passengers with proven royal ancestry, so clearly this Bradford royal connection is speculative.

I would like to suggest that the parents of Alice (Morton?) Bradford be detached, and a note added to the profile with links to the speculative parents.

Hey I’m the one who found I also found a link on geni I think that has the answer

This what I found out Robert Morton profile

If you look at the detail at the bottom of page 4, you will see that:

8. Robert Morton, of Bawtry married 1) Alice Markham, daughter of Sir John Markham, and had three children:

i. JOHN, d. young,
9. ii. ANTHONY, of Bawtry, Esquire; buried in Eaworth Chapel.
iii. ANN, d. young.

This is from the book, George Morton of Plymouth Colony and some of his descendants, by Allen, John Kermott, (Publication date 1908).

The line of descent was supplied from "Familiae Minorum Gentium" by Joseph Hunter, Vol. I, p. 24, which could be inspected, in case the original did have a child “Alice.”

Additionally, it is known that pedigrees often enough left out children, especially daughters. This may have fueled the speculation published by the genealogist J.G. Hunt in NEHGR “Notes” 111:68 (1957)

This is from a screen shot at the Wikitree profile:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-518539

https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/0/03/Morton-40.png

www.geni.com/media/proxy?media_id=6000000199745846866&size=large

The small print on the left reads:

Hunter’s Familiae Minorum Gentium p. 212 doesn’t have anything about Mortons. Mortons on p. 229-233 and 241-243 don’t mention a likely Anthony and don’t mention Alice.

so what sources have mixed up

Robert Morton, Esq. & Alice Morton are not known to have had a daughter [[1st wife of William ‘Alice’ Bradford 1st wife of William ‘Alice’ Bradford] “Alice”] who married William Bradford (d. 1596).

In fact, there seems to be no valid source for her name at all.

She’s been detached as a Morton daughter. If evidence warrants it, of course she can be re attached.

Yeah he name did not show up on wiki tree

Unless William bradford have always been with the step mother maragaret fox

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fox-73 Like who was she like ppl don’t know much abt her info

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