Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. - Distant cousins

Do you want a Swede in this thread? This is what I found (no direct relation, but through my Scottish brother in-law):

Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. is your sister-in-law's husband's 20th great grandfather.

Time to buy a kilt!

/Paul L

........we're ALL related....according to the 'Bacon's neo-gospel,' ...by seven degrees or another. :) :)

LOL, I think you're referring to the "t degrees of Kevin Bacon" which is a theory that says that every celebrity in Hollywood can be linked (not family related) to Kevin Bacon within six degrees.

For example:
Cameron Diaz is two degrees from Kevin Bacon because she starred in MINORITY REPORT with actor To Cruise who starred in A FEW GOOD MEN with Kevon Bacon.

Clint Eastwood starred in ABSOLUTE POWER with actress Laura Linney who starred in MYSTIC RIVER with Kevin Bacon.

Sally Field starred in FORREST GUMP with actor Gary Sinise who starred in BEYOND ALL BOUNDARIES with Kevin Bacon.

Tiger Woods has a video game called TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 06 featuring the acting voice of Michael Sommers who starred in BANDITS with Troy Garity who starred in MY ONE & ONLY with Kevin Bacon.

Lady Gaga played Adelaide in her high school musical of GUYS & DOLLS which was originally played in the 1955 movie by Vivian Blaine who starred in FAST FRIENDS with actress Carrie Snodgrass who starred in WILD THINGS with Kevin Bacon.

MC Hammer wrote & performed CAN'T TOUCH THIS which was the end title credits song in HOT SHOTS starring Charlie Sheen who was married to Denise Richards who starred in WILD THINGS with Kevin Bacon.

Etc, etc, etc. Whether or not they may be DNA/genealogically related to Kevin Bacon is a whole other piece of pork.

For the record, I'm Kevin's 17th Cousin 1x Removed, which is still closer to him than everyone linked by degrees mentioned above. :)

According to the biblical Gospel we are all related to one another through Adam & Eve's 9th great grandson Noah, whose three sons Shem, Ham and Japheth are the founders of the Black African, White European, and Yellow Asian races, all other races being a mix of those three (Latino/Hispanic being a mix or combination of Spanish, Portuguese, African Native American and Hebrew, for example). However, we don't even have to go back that far to find our connection - recently a genealogical show pronounced that all living people can connect to one another through the people living around the 1st century (i.e. the time of Christ), and therefore virtually every single one of us is related to one or more monarchs.

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typo correction... that first line should say "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon"

Is there some reason we can't edit or posts?
Weird.

BTW.... On the subject of Kevin Bacon, it was not lost on me that one of Noah's sons was named Ham. It's like some weird cosmic joke from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy!

Did you notice that in last night’s episode of “Finding Your Roots” they found that comedian Seth Meyers is a DNA cousin to Kevin Bacon?

So we have tree on that ?

Yeah, I saw that! I immediately checked his tree, and I found his profile, but it must not be complete because we're both cousins of Kevin Bacon but it said there's no connection between us.

Yes, all members of Homo sapiens are related in one way or another, we know that. But to actually be able to see, or show, the connections between me and a certain person is exciting. That is why I stopped using my old genealogy software and switched to Geni, to be able to link to people around the globe easily. An example; I watched the TV series "Vikings" and thought I recognised the name Ragnar Lodbrok somehow. And if the data in Geni is to be believed Ragnar is my 34th Great Grandfather. It made me watch the TV-show in a new light, being about my named ancestors!

Paul, you hit the nail right on the head! I've seen some folks get very jaded after doing genealogy for a while, after they've found multiple connections to major historical figures and presidents and celebrities; they often act unimpressed and offhanded with a "yeah, me too, so what?" when someone else excitedly discovers their connection to an historically notable person. That's really sad because it IS a big deal to make those discoveries. It not only helps to give us an INDIVIDUAL sense of our connection to the world and to the Past, it also helps us to realize that every Stranger around us is merely a relative to whom we simply haven't yet been introduced - and how much better would we treat one another when we understand that fact, how much kinder and more respectful, how much more might we be merciful to those who commit an offense, how much more would we put others before ourselves, and how much more would others treat us with kindness and respect or excuse our offenses? And quite to the point, how much more is that the ultimate understanding and fulfilment of the Golden Rule, to love your neighbor as yourself? That's the power of genealogy.

To discover that the ancient Ragnar Lodbrok from way back in the mists of time is your grandfather is truly something to be impressed by and proud of. How many countless millions or even billions of relatives do we have from ancient times for whom there is not a single record, of whom we will never ever know, even if we could live to do genealogical research for a thousand years? To have found records that connects so many of us to ANY individual should make us all proud and maybe even a touch humble.

By the way, you are my 25th Cousin 6x Removed thru our distant grandfather Sweyn II Estridsøn King of Denmark (my 30th great grandpappy).
Sweyn II Estridson, King of Denmark

Nice to meet you, Cousin.
-Jim

There we are – point proven! Nice to meet you too Jim – Cousin! And I agree completely with you statements above. If more people embraced this theer would be no race wars, and perhaps less conflicts in the world as a whole.

Robert I the Bruce, King of Scots is your 18th great grandfather.
You ( David Gibson )
→ Alice Childers
your mother → Charles Childers
her father → Mary Martha Childers
his mother → James Uriah Seaton
her father → Kenner Houser Seaton
his father → James B. Seaton
his father → William Seaton
his father → James Seaton
his father → George Seaton
his father → Henry Seaton
his father → Lady Margaret Hay
his mother → Lady Elizabeth Douglas
her mother → Lady Agnes Leslie, Countess of Morton
her mother → George Leslie, 4th Earl of Rothes
her father → Margaret Balfour
his mother → Janet Ogilvy
her mother → Margaret Glen
her mother → Sir John Glen of Inchmartin and Balmuto
her father → Margaret Bruce
his mother → Robert I the Bruce, King of Scots
her father

Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. is your 24th great grandfather.
You ( David Gibson )
→ Alice Childers
your mother → Charles Childers
her father → Mary Martha Childers
his mother → James Uriah Seaton
her father → Kenner Houser Seaton
his father → James B. Seaton
his father → William Seaton
his father → James Seaton
his father → George Seaton
his father → Henry Seaton
his father → Sir John Seton, 4th Baron of Barnes and of Hailes
his father → Sir George Seton of Hailes, 3rd Baron of Barnes
his father → Sir John Seton, 2nd Baron of Barnes
his father → Sir John Seton, 1st Baron of Barnes
his father → George Seton, 7th Lord Seton
his father → George Seton, 6th Lord Seton
his father → Lady Janet Seton (Hepburn)
his mother → Patrick Hepburn, 1st Earl of Bothwell
her father → Adam Hepburn, Master of Hailes
his father → Ellen Wallace of Elderslie
his mother → Sir Thomas Wallace of Auchinbothy, Kt.
her father → Ellen Wallace, heiress of Elderslie
his mother → Elizabeth Helen Baillie of Lamington
her mother → William Baillie of Hoprig and Lamington
her father → Elizabeth Wallace, Heiress of Lamington
his mother → Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt.
her father

Sweyn II, King of Denmark is your 27th great grandfather.
You (David Gibson)
→ Alice Childers
your mother → Charles Childers
her father → Mary Martha Childers
his mother → James Uriah Seaton
her father → Kenner Houser Seaton
his father → James B. Seaton
his father → William Seaton
his father → James Seaton
his father → George Seaton
his father → Henry Seaton
his father → Lady Margaret Hay
his mother → Lady Elizabeth Douglas
her mother → William Douglas, 6th Earl of Morton
her father → Sir Robert Douglas of Lochleven
his father → Elizabeth Boyd of Bonshaw
his mother → Christian Mure
her mother → Archibald Mure of Rowallan
her father → Joanna "Janet" de Danyelston
his mother → Mary Fleming
her mother → Sir Malcolm Fleming, 1st Earl of Wigtown
her father → Sir Robert Fleming of Lenzie
his father → Malcolm Fleming
his father → Robert Fleming
his father → James Fleming of Flanders
his father → Baudouin Flanders
his father → Knut Folkesson (Folkungaätten)
his father → Ingegerd af Danmark
his mother → Knud "the holy" Svendson, King of Danmark
her father → Sweyn II, King of Denmark
his father

Thanks for sharing that! That'll help me fill in some data on my Ancestry tree. Here's mine, for anyone interested...
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Robert I the Bruce King of Scots is your 21st Great Grandfather

You (James Cunningham)→
.Paul Francis Cunningham your father→
..Mary Lillian Morrell his mother→
...Francis Albert "Frank" Morrell her father→
....Albert Andrew Morrell his father→
.....John Frank Morrill his father→
......George P. Morrill his father→
.......Ephraim Morrill, Jr his father→
........Susannah Gates his mother→
.........Elisha Gates her father→
..........Hannah Gates his mother→
...........Joseph Benjamin I her father→
............Abigail Benjamin his mother→
.............Mary Eddy her mother→
..............Elizabeth Ruck her mother→
...............Bridget Munn her mother→
................Catherine McIntosh her mother→
.................Florence MacDonald her mother→
..................Alexander MacDonald 9th Lord of the Isles 12th Earl of Ross her father→
...................Donald MacDonald of Harlaw 8th Lord of the Isles his father→
....................Margaret Stewart Princess of Scots his mother→
.....................Robert II King of Scots her father→
......................Marjorie Bruce Princess of Scotland his mother→
.......................Robert I the Bruce King of Scots her father
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Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. is your 1st Cousin 23x Removed

You (James Cunningham)→
.Paul Francis Cunningham your father→
..Mary Lillian Morrell his mother→
…Francis Albert "Frank" Morrell her father→
….Albert Andrew Morrell his father→
…..John Frank Morrill his father→
……George P. Morrill his father→
…….Ephraim Morrill, Jr his father→
……..Susannah Gates his mother→
………Elisha Gates her father→
……….Hannah Gates his mother→
………..Joseph Benjamin I her father→
…………Abigail Benjamin his mother→
………….Mary Eddy her mother→
…………..Elizabeth Ruck her mother→
…………...Bridget Munn her mother→
…………....Catherine McIntosh her mother→
………….....Florence MacDonald her mother→
…………......Elizabeth Seton her mother→
………….......Sir Alexander Seton of Winton, Sr. Lord Gordon her father→
…………........Sir William de Seton 1st Lord Seton his father→
………….........Margaret de Seton Heiress of Seton his mother→
…………..........Alexander de Seton her father→
…………...........Sir Alexander de Seton, Knight his father→
…………............Agnes Dunbar his mother→
………….............Euphemia Stewart her mother→
…………............Sir Malcolm Wallace Laird of Elderslie her son→
…………...........Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. his son

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Sweyn II King of Denmark is your 30th Great Grandfather

You (James Cunningham)→
.Paul Francis Cunningham your father→
..Mary Lillian Morrell his mother→
…Francis Albert "Frank" Morrell her father→
….Albert Andrew Morrell his father→
…..John Frank Morrill his father→
……George P. Morrill his father→
…….Ephraim Morrill, Jr his father→
……..Susannah Gates his mother→
………Elisha Gates her father→
…..…..Hannah Gates his mother→
…..……Joseph Benjamin I her father→
…..…….Abigail Benjamin his mother→
…..……..Mary Eddy her mother→
…..………Elizabeth Ruck her mother→
…..……….Bridget Munn her mother→
…..…..……Catherine McIntosh her mother→
…..…..…….Florence MacDonald her mother→
…..…..……..Elizabeth Seton her mother→
…..…..……...Sir Alexander Seton of Winton, Sr., Lord Gordon her father→
…..…..…..……Lady Janet Fleming Baroness of Seton his mother→
…..…..…..…….Sir David Fleming of Biggar & Cumbernauld, Kt. her father→
…..…..…..……..Malcolm Fleming of Biggar his father→
…..…..…..…..….Patrick Fleming Laird of Biggar his father→
…..…..…..…..…..Sir Robert Fleming of Lenzie his father→
…..…..…..…..……Malcolm Fleming his father→
…..…..…..…..……..Robert Fleming his father→
…..…..…..…..………James Fleming of Flanders his father→
…..…..…..…..…..……Baudouin Flanders his father→
…..…..…..…..…..……..Knut Folkesson (Folkungaätten) his father→
…..…..…..…..…..………Ingegerd af Denmark his mother→
…..…..…..…..…..……….Knud ‘the Holy’ Svendson King of Denmark her father→
…..…..…..…..…..………..Sweyn II King of Denmark his father

Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. is your 21st great uncle.

Carse,
Just FYI... this is an issue I keep complaining to Geni.com and Ancestry.com about.
Just as there is no such thing as a great mother or great father, there is no such thing as a great uncle, great aunt, great nephew, great niece - which are slangs that for some reason genealogists have tolerated in the professional fields and drives me crazy.

This is the correct terminology:
father/mother, uncle/aunt, nephew/niece
grand father/mother, grand uncle/aunt, grand nephew/niece
great grand father/mother, great grand uncle/aunt, great grand nephew/niece

So technically (and accurately), William Wallace is your 20th Great Grand Uncle.

But.. where is the actual paperwork to show and prove all of this?

You seriously need paperwork for that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle

@Paul Kennet Lindström - 25th cousin 6 times removed.
Paul, are you from Sweden?

Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt. is your first cousin once removed's husband's great grandfather's wife's 14th great grandfather.
You
→ Margit Waldö Bauer (Gulda)
your mother → Edith "Dittan" Gulda (Nilsson)
her mother → Hagar Kjellin (Nilsson)
her sister → Ingrid Kaijser
her daughter → Rolf Kaijser
her husband → Anna Charlotta Helena Kaijser
his mother → Johanna Lovén (von Julin)
her mother → Johan Jacob von Julin
her father → Emily Lindsay von Julin
his wife → Rev. Dr. James Lindsay of Newington
her father → Captain William Lindsay in Petcharity of Forfar, RN
his father → 3rd Earl of Lindsay 19th Earl of Crawford John Lindsay 19th Earl of Crawford
his father → William Lindsay, Earl of Crawford
his father → John Lindsay 17th Earl of Crawford
his father → Robert Lindsay, 9th Lord Lindsay, PC
his father → Eupheme Leslie
his mother → Andrew Leslie, 5th Earl of Rothes
her father → Agnes Somerville, Countess of Rothes
his mother → Sir John Somerville of Cambusnethan, 1st Laird of Cambusnethan
her father → Mariota Baillie
his mother → Sir William Baillie, VI. of Lamington
her father → William Baillie
his father → William Baillie of Hoprig and Lamington
his father → Elizabeth Wallace, Heiress of Lamington
his mother → Sir William Wallace of Elderslie, Kt.
her father

Dr. James David Cunningham

Paper work yes!!, right up to the person you call a grandfather, Seriously, wikipedia proves nothing, about their relationship to you or any one ,with out paperwork. How can you prove it? think about it, !you need well documented evidence of each person,leading up to the person you claim relationships to.. that is genealogy.

Greetings cousins, I had the same reason to watch Vikings, even if there is debate about Ragnar or his existence, I seriously wonder why in many sagas he would be mentioned, no reason to make up person, when you write a story down only few hundreds years after. There could have been more literature written down also that has disapeared. Anyway seeing the show, it gives me goosebumps, great to be related to those persons who also had wars against each other. Totally a different perspective to investigate history.

Marvin Loyd Welborn is your fifth cousin thrice removed.
You
→ Henry Victor Martin, Jr.
your father → Henry Victor Martin, Sr
his father → Nancy Angeline Martin (Thornhill)
his mother → Leroy C Thornhill
her father → Nancy Redmon
his mother → Jesse Redmond Redmon
her father → Frances Dyches
his mother → George Dykes III
her father → Benjamin Franklin Dykes
his brother → Sarah Elizabeth Welborn
his daughter → Calhoun H. Welborn
her son → Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his son → Henry Marvin Welborn
his son → Marvin Loyd Welborn
his son

Saw the Welborn name and knew we were most likely related, but was surprised it wasn't off my Moseley lineage!

Sweyn II, King of Denmark is your 28th great grandfather.
You
→ Henry Victor Martin, Jr.
your father → Lena Clementine Moseley
his mother → John Ebenezer Moseley
her father → Catherine Maria Moseley (Stearns)
his mother → Dr. Samuel Scott Stearns
her father → Ebenezer Stearns, Sr
his father → Shubael Stearns
his father → Shubael Stearns
his father → Rebecca Stearns
his mother → John Gibson
her father → Sir Alexander Gibson, Lord Durie
his father → Lady Elizabeth Bruce
his mother → Lady Janet Livingston
her mother → Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston of Callendar
her father → William Livingstone, 4th Lord Livingston of Callendar
his father → Elizabeth (Beatrice) Fleming of Biggar
his mother → Robert Fleming of Biggar, 1st Lord Fleming
her father → Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar & Cumbernauld
his father → Sir David Fleming of Biggar and Cumbernauld, knight
his father → Malcolm Fleming of Biggar
his father → Patrick Fleming of Biggar, Laird of Biggar
his father → Sir Robert Fleming of Lenzie
his father → Malcolm Fleming
his father → Robert Fleming
his father → James Fleming of Flanders
his father → Baudouin Flanders
his father → Knut Folkesson (Folkungaätten)
his father → Ingegerd af Danmark
his mother → Knud "the Holy" Svendson, King of Danmark
her father → Sweyn II, King of Denmark
his father

Can some one please explain why this profile has the letters Kt. beside the name .

What does it mean?

Knight.

Angela, I don't understand who it is you are asking me to show "paperwork" for?

Its okay Jim no matter at all, :)

anddd, thank you Anne.