Charles du Plessis - Sources?

It means he was a Sieur du plessis, a gent, cut the du plessis when he emigrated, but that his place of origin, his region if you prefer, is a region in france called " Vienne" ( we call it a departement). His town or village of origin was Cousay- les- bois in that region.
So in that area, his whole name was Jean Prieur, Sieur du Plessis and he bercame Jean Prieur in Holland.

Thanks Jessica.

cf Judith Anne de Mornay du Plessis - for which no sources either.

It's time to cut, I think.

Shaaaron !!! Do n't cut her

from french geneanet

F Judith Anne de Mornay du PlessisPrint Family TreeSosa : 2,065
Born in 1555
Deceased

Spouses and children
Married about 1575, France, to Jean Married 1674 France du Plessis ca 1549-1640 with
M Charles Prieur du Plessis 1600-ca 1640

Notes
Individual Note
geni:about_me

"Jean du Plessis [Parents] was born in 1548 in France. He died in 1640. He married Judith Anne du Plessis du Mornay about 1575 in France. Judith Anne du Plessis du Mornay was born about 1555 in Buhv, Vetin, France. She died . She married Jean du Plessis about 1575 in France. They had the following children: Charl du Plessis was born in 1600. Prepared by:Johann Wilhelm Grobler, PO Box 321,Rothdene,1964,South Africa"
-- GEDCOM (INDI) -- 1 SUBM @S6000000025542210408@

Birth
Address:, Buhy, Île-de-France, France

Family Note
Marriage with Jean du Plessis
Address:

her dad

M Jacques de Mornay, Chevalier, Seigneur de Buhy
Print Family TreeSosa : 13,954
Deceased in 1559

His dad

Philippe de Mornay
Print Family TreeSosa : 27,908
Born in 1483
Deceased

You have her grandad on geni

Philippe DE MORNAY
Sexe: Masculin
Né le : 1483
Famille proche :
Fils de Jean DE MORNAY et Catherine DE FOUILLEUSE
Époux de Berthe D`ISQUES
Père de Jacques DE MORNAY, Chevalier, Seigneur de Buhy; Bertin DE MORNAY, granddoyen of Beauvais and abbe" of Saumur au Boz; Francois DE MORNAY; Nicholas DE MORNAY; Marguerite DE MORNAY et 4 autres
Frère de Guillaume DE MORNAY
Ajouté par : Olof WALDERMAN le 15 janvier 2009
Géré par : Olof WALDERMAN

Philippe de Mornay is my r 7th cousin 18 times removed.
You
→ Frances Mary (Dymock) CHRISTOPHE
your mother → Peter Mervyn DYMOCK
her father → Jasper Thomas DYMOCK
his father → Thomas DYMOCK
his father → John DYMOCK
his father → John William DYMOCK
his father → Edward DYMOCK
his father → Edward DYMOCK
his father → John DYMOCK OF WHITCHURCH, SALOP
his father → William DYMOCK/ DYMOKE
his father → Edward DYMOCK
his father → Edward DYMOCK OF PENLEY
his father → William DYMOCK
his father → Catrin MOSTYN
his mother → Sir William (ap Thomas) MOSTYN
her father → Jane GRIFFITH
his mother → Jane STRADLING
her mother → Sir Thomas STRADLING
her father → Sir Henry STRADLING, Kt.
his father → Lady Joan BEAUFORT
his mother → Cardinal Henry Beaufort, Bishop of Winchester
her father → John OF GAUNT, 1st Duke of Lancaster
his father → Edward III of England
his father → Edward II of England
his father → Eleanor of Castile, Queen consort of England
his mother → Juana de Danmartín, reina consorte de Castilla
her mother → Philippa (de Nesle) CLERMONT
her daughter → Robert VIII Bertran de Bricquebec, vicomte de Roncheville
her son → Jeanne BERTRAND DE BRICQUEBEC
his daughter → Jeanne DE LA ROCHE GUYON
her daughter → Jacques DE TRIE
her son → Jeanne DE TRIE
his daughter → Jean DE MORNAY
her son → Philippe DE MORNAY
his son

Yes, we have the whole line, Jessica.

A big part of it - the link to Cardinal de Richelieu is a known South African fraud, unfortunately.

This is the one link - to the SA progenitor - that we can't find.

Can you find the link / sources that you're quoting here?

from french geneanet

F Judith Anne de Mornay du PlessisPrint Family TreeSosa : 2,065
Born in 1555
Deceased

Spouses and children
Married about 1575, France, to Jean Married 1674 France du Plessis ca 1549-1640 with
M Charles Prieur du Plessis 1600-ca 1640

Once you're logged into geneanet

https://gw.geneanet.org/garybrunette?n=de+mornay+du+plessis&oc=...

Also

https://en.geneanet.org/profil/sergius42

also

Biography ==
=== Birth ===::Date: 1694
:Place: Ireland

=== Parents ===:: The Stamouers entry lists Judith *Ireland 1694 [tydens die terugrit na die Kaap], as the daugther of Jean Prieur and Marie Buissett. '''But this must be an error''' because Jean married Marie in Amsterdam in 1700, after which they returned to the Cape. According to French Speakers at the Cape (M Boucher), in discussing Jean Prieuer's return to Europe From the Cape (p 345): "''The movements of the family after reaching the United Provinces are uncertain, but it is known that a daughter, Judith was born in Ireland - or possibly England - in 1694. Du Plessis may have joined the Irish settlement scheme for French Refugeees undertaken at this period, or perhaps had English family connections. The surname is not infrequent there: Francois du Plessis was the first chaplain to the Protestant Hospital in London which opened in 1718;Philippe du Plessis, like Jean Prieur a surgeon, lived in the Tower of Liberty of the English capital in 1702.''" <ref name=WENDY>May 15, 2014 by [[Trollip-5 | Wendy Schoeman]]. Source: Dormay du Toit's research.</ref>
: "''Menanteaus, perhaps relatives of Jean Prieuer's wife, were still living in Amsterdam in 1699, while at Delft in May 6, 1691, the child Louis, son of Charles Marette and Judith du Plessis, was baptized. Charles, with his brother Louis, had come from Loans, near Deux, with Gideon Malherbe in 1687, abjuring Calvinism in order to escape. Could his wife have given the name to Jean Prieuer's daughter? This family connection is merely conjectural, but what is certain is that Jean Prieuer du Plessis was in Amsterdam by 1700 and that his wife had died by that date. His subsequent marriage to Marie Buisset in the Nieuwe Kerk of Amsterdam suggests that his wife's family had been long resident in the United Provinces.''" <ref name=WENDY/>
"'It seems, therefore, that Judith du Plessis was the daughter of Jean Prieur du PLessis and Madeleine Menanteau.'''"

https://en.geneanet.org/profil/sonjahoile

These have no primary source proof, though.
Gary Brunette is a geni user.
They're repeating / copying from geni. The Boucher piece I put onto geni myself :-(

With much sadness I'm cutting this relationship. It isn't ethical to leave a relationship for which we know there is no proof - while cutting others.

If anybody finds any proof anywhere PLEASE PLEASE get hold of us.

Ok. I will ask a friend to look in the french archives. Some go back 1630. Cross fingers.
So you want a marriage ? And if juliet was born in england or ireland, there are records to find ?

Not Judith so much as Anne Prieur and Charles du Plessis as parents of Jean Prieur du Plessis.

Charles du Plessis Some sources indicate that Charles, his wife Anne and his father Jean all died in 1640. Statistically speaking, and assuming random deaths, this event is extremely unlikely. These three individuals all had ties with the town Poitiers, France. This indicates a traumatic dependent event of some kind, instead of dying randomly through natural causes. As a corollary this suggests that any offspring of Charles and Anne would have been orphaned.