Julius Caesar and Xerxes the Great of Persia

The barsine connection is likely wrong

Agreed. I cut the connection. The family of Lucius Caecilius Metellus Denter, Consul (284 BCE) and his possible father Gaius Caecilius Metellus and possible son Lucius Caecilius Metellus, Consul 251 & 247 are uncertain. There seems to be no contemporary source that would add this Barsine into the mix.

I think we also have to question Denter's daughter Caecilia Metella Macedonica. We currently show her name as Caecilia Metella Macedonica but the name Macedonicus didn't enter this family until Quintus Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, Consul (143 BCE) a few generations later.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gens_Caecilia_Metella_famil...

Xerxes test

Mawiyah bint al-Hakam, {Unsourced}

Has three contradictory husbands and does not seem to be a known daughter of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hakam_II

Thanks. I'll take a look at it tomorrow. The medieval Spanish lines on Geni are a mess because of so much fantasy.

Found the line in Leo’s database based on Todd Farmarie

http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00515435&tree=LEO

On the theme of my 78th great-grand Xerxes, is there reason to be suspicious of this lady?

Mawiyah bint al-Hakam, {Unsourced}

I've learned that Spanish female profiles with no sources, an Arabic-sounding father and an European-sounding son are to be doubted.

Yes Harald she looks fictional to me.

Iotape of Emesa, Queen of Nabataea Has confused / competing parents I can’t figure out. Too many Iotapes

I’ve got Xerxes up to 81st by clearing some England mistakes.

Xerxes I 'the Great', king of Persia is your 81st great grandfather.

Here is a nice summary and discussion about some of the THEORIES about Muslim/Christian descents in Early-Medieval Spain.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/A...

None of them have been proved and most of them have substantial defects.

Iotape of Emesa, Queen of Nabataea didn't really have competing parents. A new user duplicated the tree and someone had started to merge it in. I cut the duplicates and added one of them to the Medieval Duplicates project for later cleanup.

Doing some cleanup on Mawiyah bint al-Hakam, {Unsourced}.

I have in my notes as wife of Nuño González de Lara, but the mother of his son Gonzálo II Nuñez Minaya de Lara was his other wife Dórdia. Presumably this comes from a de Lara pedigree, but I haven't checked yet and it could just be notes from a line I found somewhere.

There is a line presented at soc.genealogy.medieval (ahnentafel numbering):
1. Rodrigo Gonsalez de Lara
2. Gonzalo Nu~nez de Lara
4. Nu~no Gonsalez de Lara
8. Gonsalo Nu~nez de Lara
16. Nu~no Gonsalez de Lara
32. Gonsalo Gustaves, Se~nor de Salas y Lara
33. Mawiyah
66. Hakam II, caliph at Cordova, 961-976

But Nat Taylor says "This is not supported by any scholarly genealogical studies of the early Laras."

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medi...

al-Hakam II was homosexual. The only two children I can find for him are his successor Hisham II and Abd al-Rahman, who died young. That doesn't mean there aren't primary sources for daughter Mawiyah.

This area needs a lot more work.

That one broke my path nicely

Xerxes I 'the Great', king of Persia is your 31st great grandmother's husband's uncle's wife's 39th great grandfather.

https://www.geni.com/path/Erica-Howton+is+related+to+Xerxes-I-the-G...

Thank you!

Recalc after disconnecting NN ‘s from recently acquired parents

Xerxes I 'the Great', king of Persia is your 31st great grandmother's husband's uncle's wife's 39th great grandfather.

https://www.geni.com/path/Erica-Howton+is+related+to+Xerxes-I-the-G...

This article looks interesting

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f8dc/e1d0d4d1c9d3cc710c246494c0b02...

This profile looks a bit strange

Wife of Theodo III of the Bavarians

Yohoo! Xerxes is no longer my direct ancestor!

Re: Wife of Theodo III.

I wonder if there is any hope for the Agilolfings on Geni? Too many theories, all trying to be set in stone with no real evidence.

I did some minor clean up. Will do more.

I’m really proud of this work and our efforts. Certainly my more twisty path to Xerxes looks more plausible (goes through Mallory’s instead of New England which really didn’t make sense).

I am also (a bit) curious as to who this Mawiyah might have really been and how she made her way into the de Lara pedigree. I had looked at al-Hakkam ll before and no sign of a daughter.

I think we can all be proud of the work we've done lately. There's a lot more still to do but I think we're beginning to send the message Geni genealogists are serious about sources. We're looking less like a fantasy site.

I take it Gregory of Tours is a flawed narrator ?

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/gregory-hist.asp

Is this de Lara pedigree from a song?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantar_de_los_Siete_Infantes_de_Lara

The Infantes de Lara were the children of Castilian nobleman Gonzalo Gustioz of Lara or Salas and his wife "Doña Sancha" (lady Sancha).

Yes (and no).

He's like all early medieval historians. A key source for events near his own lifetime but no real understanding of "history" the way we know it today. That is, he's repeating the stories he knows but doesn't look for proof or think critically. His goal is to "tie it all together" in a grand vision that puts his people in the mainstream.

In other words, he is writing "a way to understand the world and our place in it". That's what all historians did before the philosophical revolution of the Enlightenment.

That was my answer to Gregory of Tours.

On the Laras, their pedigree is almost certainly "wrong". You've linked the Cantar, which is an unreliable legend.

The de Lara line on Geni is going to have to be broken up and critically sourced. A couple of weeks worth of gut work. Are you volunteering? ;)

Not with my reliance on Google translate !

Surely we have enough Spanish speakers to help.

I’ve figured out a little more on

Theodo III of the Bavarians

From online trees.

Yes, he’s supposed to be a father of Oda. No parents for him. The “wife of” profile is time traveling, she’s two centuries earlier & started Geni life as FNU de Salzburg. I think that name should be reverted and she should be disconnected from Theodo.

After the latest round of fixing Xerxes, I now go through Sancha Blount, Lady de Ayala instead of Eleanor of Castile. The Lady of Ayala gets to Xerxes via exilarchs.

Yes, Theodo is supposed to have been father of this Oda. I dropped in an updated link to Theodo's profile yesterday but I still can't map him to an historical person.

Geni won't show me a path to Xerxes, although mine would also go through Sancha.