Hugh Ross - Hugh Ross, The Jacobite

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David of Balblair's daughter Elizabeth Wilkins had different husband according to http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=krepl...

From Wikipedia, Ross Hall, Piscataway, New Jersey:

"Ross Hall was a historic colonial farmhouse located on River Road in Piscataway, New Jersey. It was built c. 1739 by Edward Antill and is also known as the Edward Antill House. In 1768, it was purchased by its namesake, Dr. Alexander Ross.

In early July 1778, it was the headquarters for General George Washington when he ordered a feu de joie for the second anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Architecture
3 Washington headquarters
4 Independence Day parade
5 Legacy
6 See also
7 References
8 External links
History[edit]

1850 map showing Ross Hall and environs
In 1688, Edward Antill, Esq. acquired several hundred acres near Raritan Landing.[1] His son, Edward Antill (1701–1770), inherited the 370-acre property and built a house here for his family.[1] On June 10, 1739, he married Anne Morris, daughter of Lewis Morris, Royal Governor of New Jersey. Their first child, Sarah, was born here on August 18, 1740.[1] From these events, the house is dated as either late 1739 or early 1740.[1][2] The other daughter of Morris married Anthony White, who built the nearby Buccleuch Mansion, across the Raritan River, c. 1739.[3]

Antill extensively farmed his property. He had a large apple orchard of 500 trees. The apples were then used for making cider at his distillery.[4]

The property was sold in 1768 to Dr. Alexander Ross (1723–1775),[5] after whom the house is now known.[6] On February 11, 1775, he married Sarah Farmar.[7] He died shortly after their marriage on November 30, 1775.[8] She later married his assistant, Dr. Charles A. Howard, on August 5, 1778.[9][10]

The house was next purchased by Miles Smith in 1792.[11] In 1880, George W. Metlar bought the property. He also owned the nearby Ivy Hall, now known as the Cornelius Low House.[3] After 1897, Ross Hall was used as the clubhouse for the New Brunswick Golf Club until 1925.[12][13]

Metlar sold Ross Hall in the 1920s. Rutgers University owned it in the 1950s. It was damaged by fire in 1954 and destroyed in 1957.[14]

Architecture[edit]
Ross Hall was a two story brick house with a stone foundation and a gambrel roof.[3] It was a blend of Georgian and Dutch colonial farmhouse styles.[15]

Washington headquarters[edit]
The Battle of Monmouth was fought on June 28, 1778 in extreme heat, with many deaths due to heat stroke. After the battle, General George Washington and the Continental Army marched north to the Raritan River by New Brunswick for cool, fresh water.[16] The army camped on both sides of the river. Washington made his headquarters at Ross Hall, the home of the widow Ross.[17][18][19]

Independence Day parade[edit]

Here are the wills 1775 and 1777 of Alexander Ross, of Ross Hall, Middlesex, New Jersey, and sister Jean "Jane" of New York and other places including Jamaica:

https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/12276457?c=my-memories
https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/12276458?c=my-memories

Here is proof that Alexander Ross of Middlesex practiced Medicine, History of Middlesex:
https://books.google.com/books?id=ADIUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA246&lpg...

Supposed to be on page 36. Here is where I found a summary by Fran Bumman, Assistant Ross Clan Genealogist:
http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/ROSSGEN/1999-10/0939932143

Thanks for the book. Says Hugh probably father to David Ross. I read that sasine (meaning inheritance of land record in Scotland) 1701 is the date of Hugh's death and David inherited. They were pretty strict about age 21 I believe. That would make David the same age as Rev. George Ross. And you notice no source given for order of children.

Marriage couldn't be 1781 as Rev George was born before that.

Yes, I was just reading

https://archive.org/stream/rossianapapersdo01read#page/44/mode/2up

It actually looks to me like 197g is Hugh "third son" of Rev George, and his son was David.

That is very interesting page 45.
Here is a description of Reid's works:
http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-no2008051130/

Looks like Reid wrote two books on the Earls of Ross, etc. You can get them for a fortune on Amazon. Reid is saying sasine. But statement by Rev. George casts doubt on the order of the children. But he gives us the names, so thanks to him.

The old general worked hard, and the Rev George line is well documented for his efforts.

Hugh of Elizabeth City however remains a bit of a mystery in my mind. I would like to check DNA tests, comparing descendants of George with descendants of Hugh. The Geni tree is getting good enough that this will soon be transparent, and there is an Ross project at ftDNA, I believe.

It is amazing how many trees are showing Murdoch Ross as son of Margaret Stronach and David of Balblair. Just saying.

Cadit (Cadet) of the decayed house of Balmachy. Cadet might mean lesser person or lesser branch of the family. Decayed might mean everyone was leaving and going somewhere else. Clansmen weren't supposed to leave the Clan homeland. Any ideas on this. Not a lot here.

Yes. DNA would be good. I imagine they have it.

This site shows George Aeneas Ross and James P Ross having male RM269.
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rossdnaproject/default.aspx?se...

James P. Ross, b. 1715 and d.1789 R-M269
George Aeneas Ross 1679-1753 R-M269

See rossdnaproject link previous post.

It doesn't look like a close match to me, see the value difference in the columns. I'm not sure how to interpret that however.

Don't know how to read them.

Private User will help.

One suggestion is to copy paste the group with the two of them to your own spreadsheet and then sort by column values. The more columns that match, the closer the genetic match, I think is the way it goes.

That they are in the same group I believe suggests there is a common ancestor, but how long ago the lines diverged is where I’m having trouble. Is the difference in George & James to be expected 7 - 8 gens later?

This is from the Historical Genealogies by John Bodde. It shows John Mallory requesting his wife in his will of 1747 go pay a sum of money to the children of his brother William Ross near Jamestown. The will of Elizabeth Ross says she had a legacy from her Uncle Mallory and has a grandson Mallory Ross on her will. The will of William Mallory does not mention daughter Elizabeth but I wonder if her name could be Elizabeth Ann, since I don't see anything about her.

https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/44184563?c=my-memories

The persons taking the test are probably a half dozen gens from James P Ross and George Aeneas Ross. Then 3 gens to David Ross for James P Ross and 1 gen to David Ross from George Aeneas Ross, or something like that. Someone can figure it exact.

Unless they are younger than me which would mean another gen.

"children of his brother William Ross near Jamestown ..."

Maybe John Mallory was a great uncle. William Mallory (d 1719) had 4 children, and Elizabeth Ross's daughter & son in law witnesses his will.

There was also the hog stealing slander suit.

Looks to me as though George A and James P are in a "lump 'em" group - it looks like "all the leftover R-M269 non-matches". They don't even match each other very much. (Nor do any of the other members.)

They're *certainly* not Westerly, RI Rosses (I-M223). Interestingly, that haplogroup is almost nonexistent among Rosses, but scantily represented among Roses. Go figure....

James P's descendant took a shorter test than George A's, but even so I came up with FIFTEEN points of difference between them. That's too much for a relationship within recorded history, maybe even within oral history.

Maven what do you think about Boddie's suggestion that Elizabeth (unknown) Ross, niece of John Mallory, leather seller of London, was a Bean? That would suggest John's wife Mary was a Bean also. And do we know what became of William's daughter Ann?

There obviously is a Mallory / Ross connection, they weren't naming a grandchild "Mallory" in expectation of winning the slander suit. Maybe in gaining more hogs. :)

Nothing in this article

"The Mallory Family (cont'd) The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Volume 14

https://books.google.com/books?id=otIRAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA322&ot...

It's so tantalizing. Obviously they are connected families but how?

The problem with the theory that Elizabeth Ross was Mary, John Mallory of London's niece, is - would she be naming a grandchild Mallory Ross? Wouldn't the name carrying be from her actual maiden name, or her mother's? .... OK! We need to look at the SISTERS of John of London. Still doesn't explain why she gets Mary's property.

http://www.vioarc.com/ftm/rm/rogermallory.html

Roger Mallory's uncle, Rev. Philip Mallory married Catherine Batte. His wife's given name was also spelled "Katherine". In 1644, Philip Mallory was ejected from Norton in Stockton Parish, Durham, England. Like many Royalists, Rev. Philip Mallory fled to Virginia. Ministers were in short supply and quickly found a new position there. In 1644, Rev. Phillip Mallory was curate at Elizabeth City Parish Church in what is today the Independent Ciry of Hampton, Virginia. At the time, the area was called Elizabeth City County . Prior to 1643, Elizabeth City County was called " Elizabeth River " and was one the eight original Shires formed in 1634. He also served Lynhaven Parish which was formed in 1643 in the Lower Norfolk County that became Princess Anne County, Virginia in 1691.

Rev.Philip Mallory's will dated July 23, 1661 left his Plantations in Virginia to his nephew, Roger Mallory. Rev. Philip Mallory died soon after arriving in London. He was succeeded as minister of Elizabeth City Parish by Rev. Justinian Aylmer. (21)

Rev. Philip Mallory

We’re looking for an Elizabeth born around 1694 associated with Elizabeth City.

The property Capt. Roger Mallory inherited puts her in this descent area.

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