George Alcock's birthdate!

Started by Private User on Tuesday, October 10, 2017
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10/10/2017 at 2:27 PM

Tagging the profile Dea. George Alcock

10/10/2017 at 2:35 PM

John Albert Rigali you had notated the 1586 birth date in the profile, I believe, and his wife Anne Hooker has a 1586 birthdate

10/10/2017 at 2:54 PM

I think that I got George's date and place of birth (March 25, 1581 at Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England) from his Ancestral File Number (AFN) record when I first added him to my personal database about TWO DECADES ago.

Since George is being discussed, does anyone suppose that Dea. George Alcock is the same George?

10/10/2017 at 3:00 PM

Who is Dorothy Chester ?

We should look him up in the Great Migration and conform Geni to Anderson

10/10/2017 at 4:03 PM

I figured that one out - Dorothy Geni stole her sister's husband ! In other words an error. George is now merged. On to lookups to ensure Anderson supports the proposed birth date.

10/10/2017 at 4:30 PM

... And he does not, estimates 1605. I find it hard to support for this reason:

"Education: matriculated sizar from St Johns College, Cambridge, Michaelmas 1622, but did not take a degree."

https://media.geni.com/p13/9a/fc/f9/fb/53444845f0f4f8d2/img_0881_la...

- "usual" age of matriculation in college in those days was 15 - 18 years old. They did not have adult education
- "sizar" is a scholarship student, they lived in and worked in the dining hall etc.

10/10/2017 at 4:31 PM

The 4 page great migration article is available on the "media" tab. We should look at his wife's birth date better.

10/10/2017 at 5:11 PM

There is no birth date for his first wife, in fact her name of Anne is uncertain. Two children only, Samuel and John. Brother Thomas. Parents not defined.

See https://media.geni.com/p13/31/29/83/a4/53444845f0f4f8d4/img_0883_la...

Need more recent / peer reviewed / published evidence to go against a Great Migration article for the Geni tree, I think.

So my next step is to look at the parents.

10/10/2017 at 7:48 PM

The parents are plausible and sourced. Brother Thomas and sister Elizabeth named in his will, also brothers Carwirthy And Hooker; the latter his 1st wife's brother, the former could be sister's husband or could be another configuration. Two children only, John and Samuel. There is no support for daughter Ann b abt 1617 married Foster except name coincidence that I can see, although they could be from the same extended family.

10/10/2017 at 7:52 PM

In other words: George Alcock was attending college as a scholarship student in 1622. That is non will evidence for a birthdate of about 1605. There is not a way for a sizar to have been a married man at Cambridge in 1622.

10/10/2017 at 9:42 PM

https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-25472.html concluded that Grace Carwithy was probably not an Alcock. Detaching.

10/13/2017 at 2:24 PM
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