Specialists in Henderson clan lineages

Started by Clan Henderson on Tuesday, June 20, 2017
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Greetings, Scottish clan followers,

I am writing as "Clan Henderson", a profile created to help volunteer genealogists of the Clan Henderson Society (http://www.clanhendersonsociety.org/) to research Hendersons and build Henderson branches in the Whole World Tree at Geni.

My real name is @Jim Henderson, youngest son of Jack Morphett Henderson

Can you suggest some Geni members who have experience working with Henderson lineages?

I am asking at present because one of the members of the Society would like to know if William Saughey Henderson was descended from the Hendersons of Fordell, (the line that many people would like to belong to :-)

The Society doesn't have any information about this W. S. H., but there are a number of public trees at Ancestry, some of which have him descended from Sir John Henderson, 1st Baronet Henderson of Fordell
but most of those have lines where the parents of some in the line were 9 or 11 or 12 years old at their birth.

Hoping you can suggest some members who may be able to help us with research into Henderson lines,
Jim

6/20/2017 at 2:34 AM

I'm no specialist! I noticed something interesting immediately on the profile though - a DNA test result conflict ?

DNA Markers: R-L51   / R-PF7589

The profile on Geni cites

http://www.thepeerage.com/p43749.htm#i437482

Which cites
[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 1865. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S6286] Clan MacFarlane and associated clans genealogy, online http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info. Hereinafter cited as Clan MacFarlane.
[S37] BP2003. [S37]
[S15] George Edward Cokayne, editor, The Complete Baronetage, 5 volumes (no date (c. 1900); reprint, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 1983), volume III, page 347. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Baronetage.

6/20/2017 at 2:41 AM

Is this the William Saughey Henderson you mention?

6/20/2017 at 2:47 AM

http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getper... cites Stirnet & TSP

Sources 
[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Stewart05: The Scots Peerage (Stewart of Blantyre) (Reliability: 3).

[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Henderson01 (Reliability: 3).

[S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Menteth01: "Heraldry of the Stewarts" by G. Harvey Johnst o n, The Scots Peerage (Menteith), Burkes Peerages 1934 (St ua rt-Menteth) (Reliability: 3).

Erica, thanks for your response.
As I understand it, the haplogroup R-PF7589 is a refinement of R-L51, which is achieved by paying for more analysis of the sample, looking for more SNPs ("snips").
I think https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L51/ demonstrates that. I was confused at first.

Yes, that is the William Saughey H I'm on about. You'll notice that he has no parents at Geni. I have uploaded the book about his grandson, John, to his profile.

Thanks for the link to sources at Clan MacFarlane. I'll enjoy looking at them.

Here is the relevant information from the public trees at ancestry for the trees that have more ancestors for William Saughey Henderson:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16AIPD-2DXrH8G8u8M1MOq60nehN...

6/20/2017 at 8:51 AM

Jim, I love that you're doing this. Nothing of my own to contribute but I think many clan societies and DNA groups could benefit from your model.

6/20/2017 at 9:52 AM

I'm thrilled also, and glad for the chance to learn.

The geni tree for Capt Henderson / Margaret Bruce is here

Capt. William Henderson, of Fordell

And does not match William Saughey known details (or Clan MacFarlane research for that matter). The geography is different. I would look at Alexander H / Jeane Chessor more closely.

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