Teunis Anthony van Pelt Swaim - Please do not add the Swaim name to Teunis Anthony Van Pelt's name

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Please heed this note by Laraine Clark on why it is an error to make the Swaims the children of Teunis Anthony Van Pelt:

" Some of the early Staten Island, New York, researchers (between 1880-1930) published their conclusions that the Swaim name originated in the Van Pelt family, when a descendant of the Van Pelts of Staten Island, changed the surname to Swaim.This belief was held for nearly 100 years by a number of different researchers, as the early researchers who made this conclusion had done excellent research on other families.However, the early researchers did not discover Thys Barentsen and his family.Later researchers discovered Thys Barentsen and his sons and saw in the records that his sons had changed their surnames to Swaim by about 1700.

However, because the Swaim connection to the Van Pelt family had been published so many years ago, and had been believed by so many who used the work of these researchers, even the discovery of the Thys Barentsen family by later researchers did not convince some who held the Van Pelt connection belief and this Van Pelt link was perpetuated in online databases.

In April 2007 the results of the Swaim surname DNA project showed some results that literally "rewrote family history" for many.

All of the Swaim men participating in the DNA project had DNA matching eachother, but the Van Pelt man who participated did not match the Swaim men at all.The DNA results did indeed show that the common ancestor of all of these Swaim men was Thys Barentsen."

Laraine Clark
October 07, 2007

Since Laraine wrote that, there have been six more Y-chromosome DNA test results from Van Pelt males, none of which match any of the Swaims. The Van Pelt and Swaim Y-DNA profiles are distinct and should not be connected as father to son, as has been claimed here.

Please see the Swaim and Van Pelt DNA test results here:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/swaim/default.aspx?section=yre...

Please see the Swaim and Van Pelt DNA test results here:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/swaim/default.aspx?section=yre...

Alex Moes and I have worked on the van Pelt (Laenen) family. Also I believe Private User.

Thank you for the excellent information and the interesting DNA results.

I will detach the Swaims and make sure your information is noted in their profiles, but hope Alex will double check me as he works more in this area and has more background than I do.

Looks like the progenitor here, Mathijs Barentsz aka Thys Barentsen

I can't see immediately how Teunis Anthony Swaim fits into the family, he is shown as born 1685 which is 3 years after Mathijs Barentsz aka Thys Barentsen dies so it looks like he can't be a son.
His middle name is Anthony, which could actually be a patronym indicating that Anthony Swaim could be his father. Anthony currently has no son named Teunis (which is unusual) but already has 3 children born in 1685 (which in itself is unusual).
Teunis' eldest son (on Geni) is named William which could indicate that Teunis' father was named William. Thys Barents' profile has a son named Willem, William Swaim, born 1677 so not old enough to have a child in 1685.

I disconnected Sijtie Cornelius as a wife of Thys Barents as she was only 3 years old when he died.

Private User she looks to be one of yours but currently her brothers birth date precedes her father's. Maybe they are dupes for existing vB profiles?

Thanks Alex.

I am connected with the van Pelt / Laenen family multiple ways, so this caught my eye. My great great grandfather worked for a Lane, who was a famous abolitionist / Underground Railroad guy. I think they knew each other the same way my great great grandparents met -- in an Ohio town settled by Dutch Reform from Freeport, Monmouth County, NJ :) but also populated by former Pennsylvania / Ohio Scots Irish. So Petticrew and Ainsworth (my Scots Irish) somehow marry with Conover (van Kouwenhoven) etc.

I am happy to see this Discussion when I did a google search for “Vanpelt not Swaim DNA” because I still see the erroneous trees. I am a granddaughter. Elma Swaim Emerson is my great grandmother. I am an amateur but I have doing genealogy since a teen in the 1970’s. I have always found DNA to be exciting and promising. I am replying to this Discussion and FOLLOWING because I recently saw a VanPelt with Swaim and recalled the Y DNA study from many years ago. These Y tests are very expensive and carry a lot of weight.
~Cynthia, a granddaughter is all

(is all I am... and why I am weighing in to remind others of the study results)

Revisiting---
http://www.jswaim.com/family/Swaim_Genealogy.pdf page 143 mentions:

"There is a Maria Drageau that married Teunis Van Pelt
and had children including Anthony (bp 1729), Johannes (bp 1731) and others824. There have been discussions of this Van Pelt
and/or his descendents assuming the name Swaim. Y-DNA testing confirms that the North Carolina Swaims do not match Teunis
Van Pelt’s known descendents. In addition Anthony Van Pelt, son of Maria Drageau was born in 1729 (based on Annals of
Staten Island), much too late to be our Michael Swaim. Thus I am not sure which specific Anthony is being referenced and how
she obtained information regarding Michael Anthony’s parents. "

In merging some profiles, I came to a standstill here.... Maria van Pelt is showing married to both Teunis Anthony Swaim and Anthony Swaim .

I merged a son Michael Swaim and maybe should NOT have but am not clear on it but there may be more info which Swaim researchers can help clear this up.

Jack Swaim's pdf mentions Maria Drageau 5 times

Page 143: The Swaim Family of Indiana and Oklahoma including ancestry in the Netherlands January 7, 2021

Page 143 (of 432)
Related by Sarah Florence Swaim:
“My ggg grandfather was named Michael Anthony Swaim. He was b. in 1711 in New Utrecht, NY. His parents were
Anthony Swaim (who was Dutch and spoke it at home) and his Ma was Maria Dregau (a Hugenot Lady from settlement
nearby and she spoke French). My grandpa spoke both but not the best English. He use to tell the children Bible stories
with half Dutch names and we always celebrated a small Christmas which was Dutch Custom on Jan 7th, it was also
German custom ggg grandpa’s mother had been German descent but from Holland. Ggg grandpa had three brothers
William, John and Matthias and twin sisters named Maria and Elizabeth. He was not fond of farming even at an early age
so at 15 years old he went to work with a trading post. But the next year went to work with his uncle who did Survey
work. It was a trade that ggg grandpa did in VA and NC both, he also like to build and my ggg grandma Martha and gggg
aunt Charity had the best fireplaces in St. Luke’s Parish.
Note: The story above mentions Anthony Swaim and Maria Drageau. There is a Maria Drageau that married Teunis Van Pelt
and had children including Anthony (bp 1729), Johannes (bp 1731) and others824. There have been discussions of this Van Pelt
and/or his descendents assuming the name Swaim. Y-DNA testing confirms that the North Carolina Swaims do not match Teunis
Van Pelt’s known descendents. In addition Anthony Van Pelt, son of Maria Drageau was born in 1729 (based on Annals of
Staten Island), much too late to be our Michael Swaim. Thus I am not sure which specific Anthony is being referenced and how
she obtained information regarding Michael Anthony’s parents.
The last few sentences may be referencing Swaim branches that migrated to Virginia and North Carolina. Perhaps ggg grandma
Martha is the wife of Michael Swaim (1715) and Aunt Charity is Charity Teague, wife of John Swaim (1719).

The Rebecca Swaim Jones family account includes a lot of information. Some major points are as follows:
1. Parents of this Michael Swaim were Anthony Swaim and Maria Drageau.
2. Michael’s middle name was ‘Anthony’.
3. This Michael was born in 1711 in New Utrecht, NY. However this was written by Sarah about her ggg
grandfather. I have to wonder how much Sarah knew of details such as his birth date. Rebecca did not
write down Michael’s birth date in her information. It is also possible that Sarah got his date of birth (not
his name and the other information) from some other source.
4. Michael and his first wife Elizabeth Cortelyou had their first child in 1730. If this is true this makes
Michael’s birth in 1711 more likely than 1715.
5. Michael’s 2nd wife was Martha Worthington. Martha was a good preacher.
6. Michael had three brothers, William, John and Matthias, and twin sisters named Maria and Elizabeth.
7. Michael’s brother John Swaim married Charity Teague, daughter of William Teague.
8. Michael and his brother John played the fiddle and “made a fiddle jump”.
9. There is no record listed of a son named John by Michael and Martha Swaim.
10. John Swaim (1748) could not have been a child of this Michael Anthony Swaim because the family
information states that Michael had sons Abraham and William born in 1747 and 1748, respectively.
11. Michael was severely injured by a fall involving a horse that fell on him. Michael recovered but walked
with a limp and could no longer work.
The birth date listed for Michael Swaim in this account is 1711. I’m not aware of any baptismal records for a
Michael Swaim (or similar name) in this area for 1711. They may exist but I have not seen them. Perhaps the
baptism of this Michael (1711) was recorded elsewhere such as the Huguenot Church.
The Swaim-Tysen Family book and other research indicates that this Michael Swaim (1715) married Martha
Worthington.
There are two obvious possibilities:
1. Michael Swaim, born 1715, is the same Michael Anthony Swaim described in the Sarah Florence Swaim
account, however, some information such as Michael’s birth and parents names are in error.
2. The Michael Swaim, born 1715, is a different Michael Swaim from the Michael Anthony Swaim described
in the Rebecca Swaim Jones account.

The possibility that Michael’s birth could be in error is not farfetched. Rebecca Swaim Jones’ account says Michael
married when he was 18 and said their first child was born in 1730. A birth of 1711 for Michael means their first
child was born when he was 15. This is possible but not likely.
The Swaim Family of Indiana and Oklahoma including ancestry in the Netherlands January 7, 2021

Page 146 (of 432)
With the exception of the very old information such as Michael’s birth date and names of his parents the rest of the
story seems to line up with other research. It is possible that some of Michael’s ancestry information may have been
mixed up. The Van Pelt / Swaim connection has certainly been disproven by the 2007 Y-DNA study.
However the rest of the family information involves family information that Rebecca Swaim Jones would have
experienced and/or heard first hand so I tend to give it a high probability of being accurate. Rebecca would have
known specifics about her own brothers and sisters.
Michael Swaim was a surveyor and builder. When he worked with his brother John they would divide the labor
such that John would clear the land and Michael would handle the construction. George Washington did survey
work for Michael Swaim in 1751 in Frederick County, Virginia based on Papers of George Washington, Colonial
Series Vol. 1, 1748-1755.
“6–8 April 1751. For Michael Sweim. 131 acres on Evitts Run. Granted to Alexander Vance, 10 October 1754.”826
Michael Swaim was first married to Elizabeth Cortelyou according to the family information provided earlier
through descendents of Rebecca (Swaim) Jones. Michael’s wife Elizabeth died in 1737 during a severe winter in
which their son John also died.
Michael Swaim then married Martha Worthington in 1747. Martha Worthington was the daughter of Samuel
Worthington and Sarah Simcock. Samuel Worthington was a Quaker who had migrated from England via Ireland to
Salem, New Jersey in 1712. Samuel’s father and rest of the family followed a year later.827 They were married in
the Frederick City, Virginia area.
Michael migrated to North Carolina sometime before 1758 and perhaps as early as the winter of 1751. The
particular area of Rowan County where they settled is now known as Yadkin County. Rowan County in this time
period was a large county that eventually became subdivided into the present day counties of Wilkes, Yadkin,
Stokes, Surry, Guilford, Randolph, Davidson, etc.
Michael Swem is listed in the 1761 List of Taxables for Rowan County taken by Thomas Stillwell in 1761. The
1761 list also included John Vickrey, Marmaduke Vickrey, William Robins, Richard Robins, Elizabeth Lamb and
Christopher Nation. This information comes to us from historical records found in the walls of the Rowan County
courthouse in 1944 during renovations. The records were in poor shape but some of them were transcribed. 828
Michael’s brother John also migrated to North Carolina.
“Michael’s brother John remained in the original area that became Yadkin, Stokes and Surry counties, whereas Michael
moved further eastward and settled in the general area of what is today Guilford County, North Carolina.” 829
Michael Swaim supposedly settled about 15 miles east of John Swaim based on Worthington Family information.
Michael Swaim was a Baptist preacher830. There is also information that Michael’s wife Martha also preached.
Michael Swaim (1715) died sometime before 1782 since his widow Martha is listed as a widow in the 1782 North
Carolina Census (Guilford County).

Last (5th) mention of Maria is here: 824 Teunis Van Pelt and Maria Drageau children based on Annals of Staten Island (published in 1877), pg 433.

on Page 398 (of 432) of Jack Swaim's http://www.jswaim.com/family/Swaim_Genealogy.pdf

Erica Howton, if you have time, I think we need some new profiles and untangeling in light of this reference---

Teunis Van Pelt

Annals of Staten Island (published in 1877), pg 433.

Benjamin Van Pelt is not listed on that page in the Annals of Staten Island

I’m not sure what the question is.

Erica Howton the husband of Maria Drageau is based on Van Pelt/Swaim misunderstandings that have been disputed and maybe it is close to time to be able to get them untangled.
Swaim is looking good. Van Pelt will need untangled soon

Per https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/swaim/about/results:

SWAIM SURNAME ORIGINATED IN SINGLE STATEN ISLAND, NEW YORK FAMILY

2. The Swaim men are all showing matching DNA results to eachother, regardless of their ancestry. This is suggestive of a single family origin of the Swaim surname, and so far has not shown that the surname was adopted by unrelated men in this country. However the test sample is still small and we need to test more Swaim men.

A CLAIM THAT IMPLIED A RELATIONSHIP OF AN ANTHONY SWAIM, (MARRIED TO A MARIA DRAGEAU) TO THE IMMIGRANT THYS BARENTSEN, AS BEING SUPPORTED BY THIS DNA PROJECT IS NOT A CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF THE RESULTS OF THIS PROJECT. THAT PARTICULAR LINEAGE EXISTENCE IS IN DISPUTE AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER FURTHER RESEARCH STUDY. THE RESEARCHERS WELCOME ANY DIRECT EVIDENCE OR PRIMARY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT SUPPORT THE EXISTENCE OF THE ANTHONY SWAIM - MARIA DRAGEAU FAMILY.

What do you mean untangled?

Can you look at him?:Michael Swaim

I did several merges and ended up here which I think is why I am looking at Maria Drageau twice

Page 143: Michael Anthony Swaim. He was b. in 1711 in New Utrecht, NY. His parents were
Anthony Swaim (who was Dutch and spoke it at home) and his Ma was Maria Dregau (a Hugenot Lady from settlement
nearby and she spoke French). My grandpa spoke both but not the best English

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