Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven - someone is really screwing around with changing parents etc.,

it appears the person doing this is: Private User

I wrote this in reply to a similar query about 4 years ago.

I have read your correspondence under Weems on My Heritage, and have co-incidentally been asked my views on the antecedents of Catharine Buttergask.  As I found your correspondence on My Heritage, I thought that you might like to add my analysis to your thinking. I too had made the link to Gilbert Gray of Buttergask.
 
This problem has taxed the most able genealogists, not least because Catharine was an ancestor of the Queen, through her Bowes Lyon connection, and many other members of the Scottish peerage. Andrew 2nd Lord Gray of Broxmouth married twice but none of the published genealogical tables mentions a daughter ‘Catharine’ (legitimate or illegitimate’) (see Stirnet –which I find reliable), and there is nothing in the Ruthven pedigrees to indicate that she was a Gray (except perhaps for the co-incidence of regular inter-marriage between the Gray and Ruthven families).  Yet Andrew’s second son (by his second wife, Elizabeth Stewart) was Gilbert Gray of Buttergask, born in 1480, making him a rough contemporary of of Catharine ‘Buttergask’, who was born in c. 1483.  Buttergask is not a recognised surname at this time so it is reasonable to assume that she might be his sister. If so you would expect her to take the name of her father’s property Broxmouth not Buttergask, presumably a secondary property made available to the second son.  Andrew lived on until 1514, when his eldest son Patrick became 3rd Lord Gray of Broxmouth, and he died without an heir in 1541.  Yet Catharine was married bef. 1500, well before Andrew’s death, so there was no reason for her to move in with her younger brother.  I agree that it is likely that she was Andrew’s daughter, but this is by no means certain. 
Robert Stedall

J.D. Bowen changed it by accident,

i also know it took 'de vere' lineage off the tracks too

this might be helpful ...

Sir William Ruthven (mother was a Halyburton)
his father
Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
his mother, Daughter of Sir Patrick Gray, 4th Lord Gray and
Marion Gray

Sir William Ruthven of Ballindean, Kt.
→
William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven Castle
his father
Janet Halyburton, Lady Dirletoun Castle - Birth: circa April 19, 1503
Daughter of Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun Castle
and Margaret Douglas - Halyburton
William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
→
Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
his mother
William Ruthven, Lord & Master of Ruthven Castle- Birth: circa July 12, 1478
-Ruthven Castle, Perthshire, Scotland
Son of William Brentford Ruthven, 1st Lord & Master of Ruthven Castle
and Lady Isabel Livingston - Lindsay - Ruthven, Countess of Brentford
Catherine Buttergask
→
Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
her mother
Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray
her father, Son of Patrick Gray, Master of Gray
and Annabella Forbes - Gray
Elizabeth Stewart
→
John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
her father
Margaret Douglas, Fair Maid of Galloway
her mother, Daughter of Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Douglas
and Eupheme Graham, Lady Hamilton, Daughter of Patrick Graham of Kincardine, Earl of Strathearn
and Euphemia Stewart, Countess of Strathearn
John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
→
James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
his father
Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
his mother, Daughter of John Earl of Somerset Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
and Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
→
Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
her mother
John Earl of Somerset Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
her father
→
Alice FitzAlan, Countess of Kent
her mother
Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent
her father
→
Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel
her father
Eleanor of Lancaster, Countess of Arundel and Warenne

her mother
→
Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel
his mother
Edmund FitzAlan, 9th Earl of Arundel
his father
→
Joan de Vere
her mother
Sir William de Warenne

her father
→
Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford
her father
Alice de Sanford
her mother
→
Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
his father
Hawise de Quincy

his mother
→
Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
his father
Isabel de Bolbec

his mother
→
Alberic / Aubrey de Vere
his father
Agnes of Essex, Countess of Oxford

his mother
→
Alberic Aubrey II De Vere
his father
Adelize de Clare

his mother
→
Beatrice de Vere
his mother
Alberic / Aubrey "Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire

his father
→
Sibilla Countess of Ghisnes (Gand)
her mother
Henry Castellan of Bourborgh

her father
→
Manassès of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
her father
Emma d'Arques

her mother
→
Gallus of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
his father
Gertrude de Clermont

his mother
→
Aurelius of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
his father
Helène De Vere

his mother
→
Otho / Eudes of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
his father
Constance Charters de Montlhéry

his mother
→
Nicasius I of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
his father
Agatha de Champagne

his mother
→
Milòn II of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
his father
Avelina de Nantes

his mother
→
Milòn I of Vere, duke of Angiers (Fictitious Person)
his father
Bertbelle (Fictitious Person)

his mother
→
Raymond of Vere, count of Anjou (Fictitious Person)
his father
Melusine (Fictitious Person)

his mother
→
Vere, King of Anjou (Fictitious Person)
his father
Dragon, Queen of Anjou (Fictitious Person)

NOT SURE, if i need to post this also on the de vere board,
Question for Justin ?

Catherine Buttergask

this is the correct lineage posted above
all the changes made; are actually detailed here
https://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/threads/phony-lake-family-profiles...

I was once descended from Catherine Gray but something had changed and now I am descended from Jean Hepburn. I too wanted this fixed but I quickly stepped out of the situation because I did not know what I was doing and was told the same thing as what Robert said. So as of now, not descended from her....I don't think it matters. LOL I do think it should reflect the best representation of what the experts think.

another thing to check
is RUFFiN is NOT RUTHVEN
see changes on this one
Alexander Ruthven of Freeland