Donald Trump, 45th President-elect of the United States - Donald Trump is a descendant of the Viking chieftain who founded Russia

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Murdo Macleod was son of a Donald Macleod. I confirmed that. I did not trace the ancestry or origins of Donald Macleod.

Unfortunately, this entry I couldn't find the link:

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQ77-WJH : 2 January 2015), Christian Macleod in entry for Alexander Mcleod, 10 May 1830; citing STORNOWAY,ROSS AND CROMARTY,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 101,997, 990,662.

"Donald Trump stammer altså, i følge nettstedet Geni.com, fra Magnus Lagabøte som var konge i Norge fra 1263 til 1280." http://www.side3.no/historie/hevder-trump-stammer-fra-magnus-lagabt...

Source Geni and my 17th cousin thrice removed
Reidun Margrethe Carstens

Hugh Munro, 1st of Assynt
hans sønn

Euphemia Mackay
hans datter

Christain Mackay
hennes datter

Robert Mackay of Achness
hennes sønn

Alexander Mackay
hans sønn

Robert Mackay, tacksman of Halmdary
hans sønn

Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea
hans sønn

Mary Mackay
hans datter

Donald Macleod, fra Whitefield, nær Thurso
hennes sønn

Catherine (Christian) MacLeod
hans datter

Alexander MacLeod
hennes sønn

Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
hans sønn

Mary Anne Trump (MacLeod)
hans datter

Donald Trump, USA kommende 45. president
hennes sønn

You might want to read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

Ulf Ingvar Göte Martinsson, is this relationship confirmed?

Mary Mackay
hans datter

Donald Macleod, fra Whitefield, nær Thurso
hennes sønn

Catherine (Christian) MacLeod
hans datter

Alexander MacLeod
hennes sønn

Not yet if ever? The line were cut off there because of lack of sources, and it's quite understandable as there was hundreds if not thousands? Macleod's living in the more or less same area in Scotland under this time frame, within a 30 years period you could for example easily have had a dozen men with the exact same name marrying women with the exact same name, e.g. John MacLeod, marrying Anne MacLeod, etc. Without more proof this particular line can't be said to be satisfying.

https://archive.org/stream/bookofmackay00mack#page/255/mode/1up/sea...+

I read this as Catherine, the daughter of Donald MacLeod, married ("now the widow of") William Telford, Skerry.

So this would not be the same Catherine MacLeod as mother of Alexander MacLeod.

She may have been married twice. She was also married to William Macleod.

Maybe someone can arise the awareness in Scotland that Donald Trump had a Scottish grandmother, so that some amateur genealogist there can start to dig up his real lines? ; )

The expectation is that one of America's top genealogists is already on the case

https://www.americanancestors.org/StaticContent/articles?searchby=a...=

Well dog gone it, the link shows an error page.

Dang link breaks, try this way

https://www.americanancestors.org/search/site-search/?q=archive

search term:

archived articles gary boyd roberts

Ok, now it works.

Erica "the Disconnectrix" Howton, could you name a specific work of Gary Boyd Roberts on the genealogy of Trump?

I don't believe he has published anything about Trump as yet.

I guess someone done an odd politicizing in Trumps fathers line, this one, Christian J. Trump born 100 years before Hitler got into power, he also died a decade before Hitler was born, has been awarded with a very brown image, brown symbolize often Nazism.

Trump's Scottish Ancestry
THE FAMILY HISTORY OF MARY ANNE MACLEOD, THE MOTHER OF DONALD J. TRUMP

by Tony Reid

Genealogy

Mary Anne was born on 10th May 1912 at 3 Tong, Stornoway to Malcolm MacLeod and his wife Mary Smith. The family lived at Tong, a small fishing/crofting township lying 3-4 miles from Stornoway, the only town on the Isle of Lewis. The parents married in 1891 within the Free Church of Scotland, Tong. Malcolm was a local fisherman/crofter, the son of Alexander MacLeod and Annie MacLeod. At the time of the 1901 Census, Malcolm and Mary already had six children.

Alexander, also a crofter/fisherman, would have been born in about 1832. He married Ann MacLeod, also a Tong resident, in 1853 and died in Tong in 1900. According to his son Malcolm, who was the informant of his father’s death, Alexander was the son of William MacLeod, a crofter, and Catherine MacLeod. William died at nearby Vatisker in 1869 and, according to his son Alexander; he was the son of Kenneth MacLeod and Catherine McIver.

No trace could be found of wills or testaments in respect of Alexander or William MacLeod. The book “Tong: The Story of a Lewis village”, (Tong Historical Society, 1984) provides some family trees and photographs of several MacLeod’s. Further research would be required to clarify the relationships of these people to Mary Anne/

http://www.trumpgolfscotland.com/Default.aspx?p=dynamicmodule&p...

Many people are saying, that it's correct. ; )

Wow! And you can bring the documentary resources?

Let's see now how the confusion happened:

https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000010884245749

Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
Пол: Мужской
Рождение: 27 декабря 1866
Isle Of Lewis, UK
Смерть: 1954 (87)
Isle Of Lewis, UK
Ближайшие родственники:
Сын Alexander MacLeod и Ann MacLeod
Муж Ann MacLeod и Mary MacLeod (Smith)???

This is going to start this debate back up again. American Ancestors Managize Vol 18.1 Spring 2017 just arrived in the mail box. (Note this is not NEHGR but it is published by NEHGS). The following article appears:

The ancestry of President Donald John Trump an initial exploration Alexander Bannerman edits Executive Papers and approves applications for various hereditary societies. Julie Helen Otto, a former Staff Genealogist at NEHGS, indexes the Register and serves as Transcriber for Mayflower Descendant. Gary Boyd Roberts is Senior Research Scholar Emeritus at NEHGS.

"President Donald John Trump is half
German and half Scottish, the son of
real-estate developer Frederick Christ
“Fred” Trump (d. 1999) and Scottish
immigrant Mary Anne MacLeod
(d. 2000), this latter born on the Isle
of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides. The
President’s paternal grandparents
Friedrich “Fred” Trump (d. 1918) and
Elizabeth Christ (d. 1966) were late
nineteenth-century immigrants from
Kallstadt, Pfalz (in the Rhineland),
Germany. Alexander Bannerman and
Julie Helen Otto compiled an ancestor
table that will appear in the next issue
(No. 14) of Executive Papers,1 which Mr.
Bannerman edits. The Trump ancestry
was initially covered, as a narrative,
in Gwenda Blair, The Trumps: Three
Generations That Built an Empire
(2000), later reprinted as Three Builders
and a Presidential Candidate (2015),
which names the four German grandparents
of the President’s father. Further
German ancestry may well be traced
and confirmed, and may first appear
on the Internet (as did some of the
data below). Isle of Lewis surnames
in Mary Anne MacLeod’s ancestry
include MacLeod (at least three lines),
MacIver, Cameron, MacKenzie, Smith,
MacSwane, Campbell, and MacAulay
(at least two lines).
In compiling the President’s Scottish
ancestry extensive use was made of
ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk, the essential
website, which includes (among many
other records) pre-1855 Old Parochial
Registers (births/baptisms, marriage,
and burials, only for the Established
Church); post-1855 Statutory Registers
(civil VRs—births, marriages, and
deaths); and Scottish census images.
Below is an initial ancestor table
through great-great-great-grandparents;
the treatment in Executive Papers will
be more detailed. Earlier generations
of Scottish ancestry may also appear
on the Internet but will require confirmation.
The following Ahnentafel may
alert readers to Kallstadt-area surnames
shared with the President. Inhabitants
of the Isle of Lewis were long of largely
Celtic and/or Viking descent and many
still speak Gaelic. Kinships to mainland
Scottish families with the above and
following surnames may date from
common ancestors only of the seventeenth
century or earlier. MacLeod and
MacAulay are among the most common
surnames on the island.
Sources, in addition to those mentioned
above, include several German databases
on Familysearch.org (covering
births and baptisms, 1558–1898;
marriages, 1558–1929; and deaths
and burials, 1582–1958); FindAGrave
memorials (for Fred Christ Trump
II, brother of the President; Frederick
Christ “Fred” Trump and Mary Anne
MacLeod Trump; Friedrich “Fred”
Trump and Elisabeth Christ Trump;
Christian Johannes Trump; and Philipp
Christ); New York Times obituaries
and other newspaper items; U.S.
Naturalization Record Index (1794–
1995), Eastern District of New York,
and the Social Security Death Index
(both on Ancestry.com); and Trump
tombstones at the Lutheran All Faiths
Cemetery, Middle Village, Queens Co.,
New York."

And next post I include the Ahnentafel
https://www.americanancestors.org/browse/publications/american-ance...

The Ahnentafel

1. Donald John Trump, born New York
City 14 June 1946; married (1) Marble
Collegiate Church, New York City
7 April 1977, as her second husband,
Ivana Marie Zelniĉová (b. Gottwaldov,
Moravia, Czechoslovakia [now the
Czech Republic] 20 Feb. 1949) (div.
1991); (2) New York City 20 December
1993, Marla Ann Maples (b. Cohutta,
Georgia 27 Oct. 1963) (div. 1999); (3)
Palm Beach, Florida 22 January 2005,
Melania Knauss (b. Novo Mesto,
Sevnica, Yugoslavia [now Slovenia],
26 April 1970, as Melanija Knavs).
Research by Mr. Bannerman has identified
the First Lady’s parents as Victor
and Amalija (Ulĉnik) Knavs of Slovenia
and New York City. Her grandparents
were Josef and Antonija (Ribic) Knavs,
and Anton and Amalija (Gliha) Ulĉnik.
2. Frederick Christ “Fred” Trump
(Bronx, New York 11 October 1905–
New Hyde Park, New York 25 June
1999), real estate developer; married
New York City, 11 January 1936
3. Mary Anne MacLeod (Tong,
Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, Outer
Hebrides, Scotland 10 May 1912–New
Hyde Park, New York 7 August 2000),
naturalized Brooklyn, New York
10 March 1942
4. Friedrich Trump (Kallstadt,
Rheinland-Pfalz, Bavaria [part of
Germany from 1871] 14 March 1869–
Queens, N.Y. 30 May 1918), naturalized
Seattle, Washington 27 October 1892,
married Kallstadt 26 August 1902
5. Elisabeth Christ (Kallstadt 10 October
1880–Manhasset, New York 6 June
1966)
6. Malcolm MacLeod (Stornoway
27 December 1866–Tong 22 June
1954), fisherman and crofter; married
Stornoway 23 April 1891
7. Mary Smith (Tong 11 July 1867–
Tong 27 December 1963)
8. Johannes Trump, Jr. (bp. Kallstadt
30 June 1829–Kallstadt 6 July 1877);
married Kallstadt 29 September 1859
9. Katherina Kober (Augsburg, Bavaria
ca. 1836–Augsburg in November 1922)
10. Philipp Christ (bp. Kallstadt
17 February
1856–Kallstadt 1908);
married Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg,
Germany 15 December 1877
11. Anne Maria Anthon, living in 1908
12. Alexander MacLeod (Vatisker, Isle
of Lewis 10 May 1830–Tong 12 January
1900), fisherman and crofter; married
Stornoway 3 December 1853
13. Anne MacLeod (b. Tong
12 February 1833)
14. Donald Smith (Stornoway ca.
1833–26 October 1868, drowned in
Broad Bay, off Stornoway); married at
Garrabost, Stornoway 16 December
1858
15. Mary MacAulay (b. ca. 1835)
16. Johannes Trumpf (ca. 1788–
Kallstadt 24 November 1835), son
of Johann Paul Trumpf and Maria
Elisabetha Setzer; married
12 November 1826
17. Susanna Maria Bechtloff (ca. 1805–
Wachenheim, Bavaria 14 May 1861),
daughter of Jakob Bechtloff and Anna
Katharina Böhringer
18. Johann Jakob Kober (1802–1871),
of Augsburg and Wachenheim, Bayern
(Bavaria)
19. Elisabeth Peter (1814–1895)
20. Johann Georg Christ (1823–1878),
son of Johannes Christ and Katharina
Klingenschmitt; married Kallstadt
5 February 1851
21. Sabina Christina Hartung (1823–
Kallstadt 1868, bur. 4 October), daughter
of Martin Hartung and Christina Henzel
22. Johannes Anthon (bur. Kallstadt
25 March 1889); married Bad
Dürkheim, Pfalz 3 September 1840
23. Eva Farny (Bad Dürkheim, Pfalz
9 April 1818–bur. Kallstadt
30 December 1875), daughter of Adam
Farny and Katharina Bühler
24. William MacLeod (Aird Tong,
Stornoway 26 April 1806–Vatisker
12 November 1869), son of Kenneth
MacLeod and Catherine MacIver;
married Stornoway 19 November 1828
25. Christian/Catherine MacLeod
(b. Stornoway ca. 1809), daughter
of Donald MacLeod and Margaret
Cameron
26. Alexander MacLeod (b. Tong
12 October 1806); married Stornoway
15 November 1831
27. Ann MacKenzie (b. Back, Isle of
Lewis 30 December 1811)
28. Duncan Smith (b. Stornoway
ca. 1803); married Stornoway 7 January
1832
29. Henrietta “Essie” MacSwane/
MacQueen (Lochs Ross, Druimtong,
Scotland ca. 1810–Stornoway 26 March
1882 “aged 72”), daughter of Angus
MacSwane and Margaret Campbell
30. John MacAulay; married Stornoway
22 February 1825
31. Ann MacAulay.

Source:
https://www.americanancestors.org/browse/publications/american-ance...

I searched the site cited above:

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

And I still found no evidence of Christian/Catherine MacLeod's parents. Maybe someone else will have better luck. Per above Catherine was married to someone else. So I don't know what to make of this. The authors do state "Earlier generations of Scottish ancestry may also appear on the Internet but will require confirmation."

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