Ragnvald Eysteinsson, Mørejarl - Descendants of Ragnvald Mørejarl

Love it :-)

Personally I suspect that this historical DNA test ends up as another - they will sit on the results as long as it is possible to make money (writing books etc) and academic career on it. I doubt that the results will show up on sites where we freely can compare our own DNA with it.

:-(
But if enough Y line descendants on geni were to test we'd be able to compare them for ourselves.

Fun trace, with good old 29th ggf Ragnvald Eysteinsson...and Uncle Nils Havardsson...again all my lines go back through multiple layers of daughters as there are 7 consecutive generations of daughters between Hakun Jallur and Sigurd Gautesson Gaite..so my Y is out of the game LOL....and even though Eiliv Torsteinsson is listed in Geni as 26th GGF, it is a vastly different route that goes through that problematic Klevar/Lindhein corridor (for me due to Tone Torbjornsdatter Sodheim & Reine).

Managed to sort out a parent conflict (I think) on the path, so the group I found now has two more levels of ancestors, and there are more branches to pursue - the new ones all go through Gaute på Ornes, Ænes, who is someone most genealogists have encountered before.

The nice thing about Geni "facts" is that they change all the time :-)

There are several of us who have been genetically tested and who are directly descended from the Somerled line. Once we know the DNA of Rollo's descendants in France currently being analysed it will be easy to see if Ragnvald Morejarl is or is not of that line as is speculated by some researchers.

Sandy Burnfield Somerled, “King of the Isles” is currently listed with an Irish-looking father-line ancestry. Is there an alternative theory that has him as a son of Ragnvald, and where does it diverge from the listed line and connect to Ragnvald's line?

That has been proved wrong - Somerled is genetically of Norse origin and not Irish, with connections to Kings of Mann etc. The Somerled llne can't be best seen in the Clan Donald DNA project which is very extensive and well documented.

Sandy Burnfield as in y-dna haplogroup? The profile mentions R1a1 (=R-M459), but that is a group that is old enough to have had individuals travelling around a *lot* (14.000 years according to https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M459/).

So there's no *specific* story of Somerled's ancestors that connects him to Ragnvald?

Well done! It maby ends all speculations
M.V.H
Svante.

There's no way to end all speculation :-) But hopefully we can speculate on a more informed basis.

The Y DNA hapkogroup linked to Somerled's line is quite specific and is shared by all the Clan Donald Chiefs now living and many others in Clans Finald, Dougal, McAllister, McInnis and others. These Chiefs and there families are related to other Norse in Scotland and Ureland and Scandavia. Somerled is a Norse name and is of Norse "aristocratuc" origin and is likely to have had ancestire especially in Orkney and Shetland eg Ragnvald's relative the Jarl of Orkney. Direct genetic links not yet oroved that far back

That should have said Ckan Donald - MacDonalds and others related to them

This may be of interest as well as the historical and other stuff on this site http://www.clan-donald-usa.org/index.php/dna-layout/13-dna-project/...

And this as well as other historical stuff http://www.clan-donald-usa.org/index.php/dna-before-somerled

Thanks - this page indicates that his likely haplogroup was FGC11892 YP326 / 6777158 - I've noted that in the profile page of Somerled, “King of the Isles” .

Thanks

Thanks for putting the DNA in - but it still has R1b under Ethnicity which should also be changed

I'm not sure what it should say, actually. "Ethnicity" is a slippery concept at the best of times. I'd be more comfortable with blanking the field.

but R1b is clearly wrong. I blanked it.

Yes, best solution!