Louis Fourie, SV/PROG - 1st marriage in France?

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9/5/2016 at 6:30 AM

What is the Source for the Overview point that Louis Fourie's 1st marriage - to Suzanne Cordier, b2 SM - took place in France in 1695?

Suzanne was born in 1681, and her parents emigrated to SA in 1688 (Is there evidence that they left a 7yr old behind?)
Louis emigrated in 1688 too - so he'd have had to go back to France to marry her.
Suzannewould have been 14 at her marriage, & 13 at the birth of her first child if the Overview "b1. Susanna ~ 1694 x Jan Nel xx CE Schutte' is correct.

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9/5/2016 at 6:51 AM

Sharon what the Groot Afrikaanse Familienaamboek says(Afrikaans) p 122- will try my best.
SV- Louis Fourie. French refugee. Arrive in 1688.
In 1699 he farm on the farm Slangerivier in Wagenmakersvallei ( Today called Wellington where he stayed until his death in 1750.
He also owned another farm, "Zeekoedrift" on the banks od the Gouritsrivier.
Married Susanna Cordier, d.o. Louis Cordier. She died ca 1715.
He then marries Anna Jordaan baptised 30.112.1699, d.o. Pierre Jordaan.(21 children).
And then the same as the book you have Die Hugenote - I will see if I can find something on stamouers as well.
As for her father Louis in the same GSAFNB/page 82-Arrived ca 1688 with his wife Francoise Martinet.(7Children) Etc.

9/5/2016 at 6:53 AM

I can understand Afrikaans - it's okay not to translate

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9/5/2016 at 6:53 AM

Sorry Afrikaans again. 4 children was born in Europe
CORDIER Louis
Written by Stamouers. Posted in A - C

Louis CORDIER was "n Franse Hugenoot van Orleans wat aangekom het in 1688 met sy vrou Francoise MARTINET en 4 kinders. Hy was "n landbouer en een van die eerste ouderlinge van die Franse gemeente Drakenstein, waar hy in 1 Januarie 1689 te Bethel, Paarl gevestig was. Hy het finansieele hulp ontvang in 1690 en is is oorlede in 1702. Hy het 3 seuns en 4 dogters gehad - 4 van hulle in Europa gebore.

KINDERS
1. Susanna x Louis Fourie
2. Louisa x Daniel Jacobs xx Jacob Pienaar
3. Maria x Francois du Preez
4. Jean x 24 Apr 1712 Jeanne Terrier
5. Jeanne x Matttheus Frachas
6. Jacobus (Jacques) ~ 23 Okt 1689, boer op De Vondeling, Wagenmakersvallei.
7. Philippus ~ 26 Okt 1698 x Elisabeth Malherbe

Verwysings:
De Villiers/Pama
Heese/Lombard
Verwysingsmateriaal, Boksburg biblioteek
Verwysingsmateriaal, Springs LDS FHC biblioteek
Saamgestel deur:
Martina Louw (nee van Breda)

9/5/2016 at 6:55 AM

So the Overview is wrong - no marriage in France.

What Sources do we have for the birthdate of Suzanne's first child?

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9/5/2016 at 7:03 AM

Thank you. For the Afrikaans I mean.
Will have a look a see if I can find that.
Also found this on eGGSA but no names of children
Louis Cordier en Francijn Martinet
http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/muster-rolls/cape-archives...
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9/5/2016 at 7:23 AM

Sharon in all my books, records et al, I anly find two Nel SV. No Jean Nel.
That is Estienne Nel X Marie Madeleine Marais
Guillaume Nel X Jeanne de la Batter in Amsterdam Netherlands.
So no. I have to start supper and get my washing of the line.
Will look tomorrow.
Just remind me please.
Judi

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9/5/2016 at 7:25 AM

Sorry I see Jean is b2 so I presume he will be the son of Guillaume.☺

9/5/2016 at 8:26 AM

Susanna Fourie, b1 SM born - 6 September 1694 Wellington, Cape Winelands, South Africa
b1 Susanna gedoop: omstr. 1694

Such a specific date - surely a typo?
13 yrs old seems more unlikely than 14yrs old for the date of the first baby.

Delia http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g5/p5203.htm uses - P.J. Fourie, 'Die voor- en nageslag van Kmdt. P.J. Fourie - Boere-krygsman en held van die Slag van Graspan (6 Junie 1901)", Familia (Fourie) Vol. 9, no. 3 (1972). as a source for
'Francoise Fourie b. 4 Sep 1696'
& 'Marie Fourie b. 26 Oct 1698'

She has Susanna Fourie as the third child 'b. bt 26 Oct 1698 - 27 Mar 1701' - without a citation though. The Inventory in Jan 1715 lists Susanna first: But this isn't necessarily proof.

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